Any source on your claim about consciousness? Sounds very speculative.
Yep
The thing is if it’s entangled, why is there a fiber cable?
If it’s teleportation, why is there a cable?
However what actually makes consciousness in a brain is (hypothetically, technically) microtubules forming a very tiny cable inside of which quantum superposition is able to be maintained while we are conscious. When even brief quantum entanglement used to be insanely hard.
Like, it’s hard to tell what really happened from OPs article. But there should be much better articles explaining it, and this could actually end up being crazy important. Like, 20-30 years from now this might be how we finally get a real AI.
threeganzi@sh.itjust.works 5 hours ago
givesomefucks@lemmy.world 5 hours ago
threeganzi@sh.itjust.works 5 hours ago
Thanks, that’s an interesting read. Still stand by my opinion that your statement is overly confident in explaining consciousness.
givesomefucks@lemmy.world 5 hours ago
Penrose published a book on it in 1989.
For literal decades the only thing that ruled it out was the ability for quantum entanglement in the brain. Less than 2 years ago we proved not only was that possible, but quantum super position could be sustained for as long as we’re awake.
It’s a pretty safe time to be confident, even without accounting for Penrose being the literal smartest person on the planet.
Like, I’m not big on “appeals to authority” but if Sir Roger Penrose spends 37 years saying something is true, and just continually gets proven more right over the decades…
It’s not as far reaching as you seem to believe.
Like, gravity is just a theory too, shit is harder than people realize it is to prove.
rah@hilariouschaos.com 9 hours ago
what actually makes consciousness in a brain is (hypothetically, technically) microtubules
This is only a proposed theory, it’s very far from accepted fact.
givesomefucks@lemmy.world 9 hours ago
This is only a proposed theory, it’s very far from accepted fact.
Which is why I said hypothetically…
Although up until a year ago the very idea that quantum entanglement could happen in the brain was treated as a joke for like 30 years and that’s why the larger theory was instantly dismissed…
Which is why I added the “technically” as well.
If we’re being technical even gravity is just a theory. But it’s not like being deny the existence of gravity…
rah@hilariouschaos.com 9 hours ago
Which is why I said hypothetically…
I think you may have misused the word “hypothetically” then.
up until a year ago the very idea that quantum entanglement could happen in the brain was treated as a joke for like 30 years
I was taught Orch OR theory at university about 17 years ago.
that’s why the larger theory was instantly dismissed
Instantly dismissed by who? It’s a new theory, there will always be detractors and critics of new theories. That’s very different from being “instantly dismissed”.
givesomefucks@lemmy.world 9 hours ago
I think you may have misused the word “hypothetically” then
I 100% did
I was taught Orch OR theory at university about 17 years ago
Then you were also taught that there was no way the brain could maintain sustained quantum entanglement
It’s a new theory
I mean, frame of reference…
You said you learned it 17 years ago, that’s not very “new”.
But compared to any other science, all of psychology is incredibly “new”.
I’m multitasking bro, this ain’t that deep
webghost0101@sopuli.xyz 2 hours ago
My non scientific intuitive guess is that the cable is there to reliably create the entanglement conditions.