Comment on Majority of Americans continue to favor moving away from Electoral College

• PizzaMan@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  Because the will of the people in your definition is the will of a handful of cities

  No it’s not. A popular vote is a vote that reflects what the majority want. It has nothing to do with the location of the voter. We should not have the weight of our votes be effected by where we live, like we currently have with the electoral college. My vote should count the same way as anybody else’s, and so should yours.

  Ideally the presidency and all other offices would be handled with STAR or approval voting, as they do not produce spoiler effects, weights by voter location, and help reduce extremist candidates.

  It’s literally in the Constitution.

  And it needs to change because the current system is fundamentally flawed. Our current system weights a voter’s voice by where they live, ignores huge swaths of people, has a spoiler effect, and does nothing to stop extremist candidates.

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  • jimbolauski@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Swing states don’t get the only say, a vote in an uncontested or lopsided race is still counted. All you are complaining about is you want your state to feel special on election night.

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    • PizzaMan@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Swing states don’t get the only say

      They effectively do.

      a vote in an uncontested or lopsided race is still counted.

      But they are effectively meaningless because California will always vote blue and Texas will always vote red. If you try to vote against your state’s pre-selected candidate you’re vote basically just gets tossed.

      Actually it’s worse, since your population contribution actually ends up going towards electors that vote against what you voted for.

      All you are complaining about is you want your state to feel special on election night.

      No, I want all votes to be counted equally. I live in a swing state, and unless you live in a tighter swing state, my vote means more than yours ever will. That’s bullshit, and a fundamentally bad design.

      My state shouldn’t be special. That’s the whole point of getting rid of the electoral college, to ensure all votes are counted equally regardless of origin of state.

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      • jimbolauski@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        Applying your logic to a popular vote, people’s votes won’t matter as the margin will be more than 100,000 their vote makes no difference. Is your goa tol make everyone’s vote not matter?

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• uis@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  Slabs of stone don’t have will. People have.

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