Comment on Dutch cops arrest man after sending him confidential files by mistake

• Chais@sh.itjust.works ⁨5⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  I think the point webp@mander.xyz is trying to make is that, if I were to send you digital information and then demanded from you to delete it, one would have potentially a harder time convincing people, that it’s not within your rights to demand remuneration.
  Especially with how US-centric and -representative the international media landscape has become.
  Even though in most(?) European countries I imagine (didn’t actually check) I could sue you for damages, maybe reduced due to my causing the issue, should you publish the information after I asked you delete it.

  But with the power imbalance at play here the police can just roll in and arrest the guy. Allowing them to be terminally stupid in the best case, or malevolent in the worst. They could just as well claim they sent someone secret information, they refused to comply with the request for deletion, so they were arrested.
  Depending on how little oversight there actually is, that either is the end of the story or, when asked for proof of this series of events, the “proof” was “accidentally deleted” during the investigation, how clumsy.

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  • MountingSuspicion@reddthat.com ⁨4⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    This is an translated excerpt from the article:

    The man decided to download the files. Police told the man to stop this and delete the files. The man indicated that he would only stop and renounce it if he ‘would get something in return’. Therefore, the police have decided to arrest the man and confiscate his data carriers to secure the files again and prevent distribution.

    If you are sent a download link, while you know you should get an upload link, it is clearly told not to download and choose to download the files anyway, then you may be guilty of computer breach. The recipient can reasonably assume that the download link and the files shared with it are not intended for him.

    The police have no indication that the files are further distributed. The protocol surrounding a data breach is followed. Police are conducting further investigations.

    It does not seem like a power imbalance allows them to just roll up and arrest him. It seems like they have a legal ability to ask him to remove the files and since he did not they have a legal right to charge him/confiscate the files. I generally don’t want to assume public sentiment, but I personally think it’s understandable that some government documents (those pertaining to open investigations) are subject to protections that other documents might not be. For what it’s worth, if someone sent me their digital information they wouldn’t have to ask me to delete it because I would not have saved it in the first place and I certainly would not have asked for payment to delete it if I somehow accidentally downloaded it.

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• webp@mander.xyz ⁨9⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  If you feel like people being extorted should not be able to charge people attempting to extort them because they created the conditions for extortion then I think we fundamentally disagree on how law and order should function.

  We probably do disagree, because there are conditions that create every crime and punishing the actors does not prevent the crime in the first place. You can see how there is still much crime in places that have supposed “law and order.” Go ahead and downvote.

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