I think one of the mistakes many newb self hosters make is thinking of systems in their entirety rather than as components.
“How to install pihole on a raspberry pi” and “how to setup nextcloud on yunohost” are examples. All using very specific tools and very specific steps.
I’m noticing this more and more with documentation for apps where they tell me to use their specific docker-compose file and have instructions to use let’s encrypt in a specific way rather than referring you to let’s encrypt as an option and pointing you at their docs.
People aren’t learning how to use each of these tools and how to be flexible in their implementation.
An ad for what, exactly? Yunohost doesn’t have anything to sell you…
People aren’t learning how to use each of these tools and how to be flexible in their implementation.
Who gives a shit? I don’t know how to write apps for my phone either, I just click the install button and away I go. I don’t have time for a new career. If it weren’t for YNH I wouldn’t be hosting at all. And it’s not for lack of trying. Shit is complicated.
Sometimes people are just passionate about things. Like digital sovereignty.
🙄
Who gives a shit? I don’t know how to write apps for my phone either, I just click the install button and away I go. I don’t have time for a new career. If it weren’t for YNH I wouldn’t be hosting at all. And it’s not for lack of trying. Shit is complicated.
I’m always a little surprised when people are passionate about being ignorant.
Depends highly on the people. I learned that way, to get started with recipes enabled me to get early successes which in turn motivated me.
Down the road I needed different things from my setup, which could not be found in a simple recipe anymore, so I needed to learn the parts of the machine.
Exactly. Both newbies and experienced admins aren’t always looking for a general summary on how to build something. Sometimes we need a direct, easy guide to build the tool we’ve already decided to implement. Let them read the documentation so I don’t have to.
atzanteol@sh.itjust.works 12 hours ago
It still reads like an ad for yunohost…
I think one of the mistakes many newb self hosters make is thinking of systems in their entirety rather than as components.
“How to install pihole on a raspberry pi” and “how to setup nextcloud on yunohost” are examples. All using very specific tools and very specific steps.
I’m noticing this more and more with documentation for apps where they tell me to use their specific docker-compose file and have instructions to use let’s encrypt in a specific way rather than referring you to let’s encrypt as an option and pointing you at their docs.
People aren’t learning how to use each of these tools and how to be flexible in their implementation.
ranslite@pie.dasneuland.de 11 hours ago
How can something be an ad when there is nothing to sell?
atzanteol@sh.itjust.works 2 hours ago
“Reads like an ad” - see also “simile”.
ranslite@pie.dasneuland.de 2 hours ago
In germany when we say, sounds like, looks like or reads like, we mean it is. Sorry when i misunderstood.
artyom@piefed.social 7 hours ago
An ad for what, exactly? Yunohost doesn’t have anything to sell you…
Who gives a shit? I don’t know how to write apps for my phone either, I just click the install button and away I go. I don’t have time for a new career. If it weren’t for YNH I wouldn’t be hosting at all. And it’s not for lack of trying. Shit is complicated.
atzanteol@sh.itjust.works 5 hours ago
🙄
I’m always a little surprised when people are passionate about being ignorant.
artyom@piefed.social 5 hours ago
I am too, which is why your comments are so surprising.
kossa@feddit.org 11 hours ago
Depends highly on the people. I learned that way, to get started with recipes enabled me to get early successes which in turn motivated me.
Down the road I needed different things from my setup, which could not be found in a simple recipe anymore, so I needed to learn the parts of the machine.
tedd_deireadh@piefed.social 10 hours ago
Exactly. Both newbies and experienced admins aren’t always looking for a general summary on how to build something. Sometimes we need a direct, easy guide to build the tool we’ve already decided to implement. Let them read the documentation so I don’t have to.
non_burglar@lemmy.world 4 hours ago
Exactly why the article promotes stupidity. Why in the world would you put those words down proudly?