Comment on Socialist Co-Ops Against Silicon Valley Empires

tomiant@piefed.social ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

• rimu@piefed.social ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  In some places it’s fairly common. Check out this network of 257 cooperatives in Spain https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mondragon_Corporation

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  • avidamoeba@lemmy.ca ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Too few places. There’s a cluster in Italy as well.

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    • boramalper@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Which one(s) are you referring to?

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      • HailSeitan@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        Maybe some of these ones?

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• avidamoeba@lemmy.ca ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  The availability of capital for this type of organization, the capital concentration on the opposing side and its market power is what’s holding us back.

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  • partofthevoice@lemmy.zip ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    I’ll be really interesting to see how people try to hide the source of their wealth / power in a world where everything is co’oped.

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  • wonderingwanderer@sopuli.xyz ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    If only there were a way to seize the means of production and redistribute the wealth…

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    • avidamoeba@lemmy.ca ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Added a bit on that. 😊

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      • wonderingwanderer@sopuli.xyz ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        This is why this battle has to go on multiple fronts. One is creating coops where and when possible. The other is unionizing existing corpos to gain labour power that can be leveraged to curb the oligarch’s power. The third is fighting at the political level for state funding for coops and labour rights.

        I can get down with that

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  • tomiant@piefed.social ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Yeah I know. :(

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• TechnoCat@piefed.social ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  We need better financial tools to allow employees to take out loans to purchase companies from owners and form worker cooperatives.

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• Gonzako@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Italy does this! They have a strong worker commune culture on the region they make the parmesan cheese at.

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• orioler25@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

  A co-op is fundamentally not capitalism if it does indeed afford ownership of the means of production and value of the products proportionately to its members. Capitalism != commerce, that misconception is a very powerful pro-Capitalist tool. Capitalism is specifically a system with its own systems of power organized around private ownership, profit maximization, and infinite growth; it does not refer to just the concepts of wealth or trade or even profit driven organizing.

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• fortnitefinn@sh.itjust.works ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Why the fuck aren’t we doing more of it?

  Because we’re stupid.

  Because we’re stupid.

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