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despite_velasquez@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

Non-violent protests work because it really highlights the brutality of the oppressor in contrast to the moral righteousness of the protestor. It’s a public opinion tool.

However, the moment you move into the arena of violence, all of this is null and void. The only question is: who has the bigger guns? That person will win.

In this case, whatever you think of the moral standpoint of the two students, the ICE-banner student has the optics in their favour. They can claim (and have in the video) that they’re peacefully protesting and exposing the violence of their oppressor, opressor that resorts to violence at the slightest disagreement. Truth doesn’t matter anymore, everything is about optics (look at the DOJ FFS).

Good on the kid I guess, but this same admin called in the National Guard because Big Balls got jumped. Ggwp

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Formfiller@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago
This is historically inaccurate. Historically successful revolutions usually take a multilateral approach using multiple groups and approaches including taking up arms and meeting violence with violence. A good example of this would be South African liberation from apartheid

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- despite_velasquez@lemmy.world ⁨6⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago
  That’s so historically inaccurate I’m amazed it’s got so many upvotes. Let’s go through the SA case:
  
  the ANC’s armed wing insignificant and largely ineffective throughout the struggle (Mandela himself acknowledged this, and that the MK was largely symbolic).
  
  MK sabotage campaigns never posed a genuine military threat to the apartheid state
  
  By the 1980s, most MK leadership was in exile, imprisoned, or neutralized
  
  Apartheid was successfully brought down in SA mostly because of huge international economic sanctions and divestment, mass civil disobedience and labour strikes (read about the United Democratic Front’s campaigns), and the moral delegitimisafiom of apartheid through Non-violent resistance.
  
  Same with the US: people love to point at the Black Panthers, but they were systematically destroyed or marginalized (so ineffective besides vibes). The Civil Rights Movement succeeded precisely because it maintained non-violence even when met with brutal repression.
  
  I maintain that anyone that encourages violence, especially online these days must be a glowie. Want to be radical and revolutionary? Stop paying your taxes lmao.
  
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