Comment on FR#153 – What does a Discord replacement look like?

Skavau@piefed.social ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

• galaxy_nova@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  I agree with this but why are we all pitching for completely new platforms. Why don’t we all just go and contribute to stoat and implement federation instead of waiting for an entirely new platform to come up. I understand many open source people like fragmentation, but I personally would wish for more concentrated dev time on a single project. Also having one centralized place for most work makes it easier to fork later and have a solid base to work off of instead of a bunch of different ideas over and over

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  • Skavau@piefed.social ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Stoat have not designed their platform to federate and aren’t interested.

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• snowdriftissue@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  when it actually gets some uptake for more than just Fediverse instance rooms.

  Matrix has been used by FOSS projects for years

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  • Skavau@piefed.social ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Yes, but it just isn’t used in more casual ways. If I wanted to sit in Fediverse meta chatrooms and chatrooms for a bunch of clients and open source projects then Matrix is for me, but that’s not what people want out of Discord alternatives.

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• ieGod@lemmy.zip ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Why do we need federation though? I like my discord ‘servers’ being disjointed.

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  • Skavau@piefed.social ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Same reason the Fediverse does. Because a would-be piece of software can’t scale without it. If each instance is entirely disconnected, then you can’t interchange between different communities on them without new accounts. This depresses growth.

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    • ieGod@lemmy.zip ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Barring the single account, I want them entirely disconnected though. Discord had not suffered in growth because of a lack of interaction.

      Centralization is irrelevant for what users want outside of a niche. The average user doesn’t care.

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      • Skavau@piefed.social ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        Why? You could always self-host a federated Discord alternative and not federate it with anywhere else if you wanted it like that. You can use it like that and others can utilise its federation functions. Why is Federation presumably desirable for you when it comes to Lemmy but not Discord?

        Federation is necessary here for long-term resistance to corporate greed and decline. It isn’t a selling point specifically for the individual user experience here.

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      • xz25@opensocial.at ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        @Skavau @ieGod OK but you see how our goal is to make that stuff matter to users, right? Getting more users isn't the goal.

        I have never heard anyone complain that they have to choose an email provider.

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