Comment on In light of changes coming to discord: Sharkord

• Skullgrid@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

  I’m saying you’re confused on how the technology works. There’s differences between the protocol, user account settings, user account preferences, and local client settings.

  The protocol is how messages are sent and processed. User account settings are what your user is allowed to do and kept on the server. User account preferences are things that should be sent to your client when you log into it. Local client settings are things that the software you are running should know.

  Your group arrangement should either be under user account preferences, or local client settings. This is not part of the messaging protocol.

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  • Grail@multiverse.soulism.net ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

    Your group arrangement should either be under user account preferences, or local client settings

    I disagree. On Discord, channels are sorted and grouped by the server admins. This is good UX design because it gives every user on a server the same experience of the channels, and doesn’t require users to all replicate a bunch of the same work.

    What you’re proposing as a solution is that every single user in a Matrix space is responsible for sorting and grouping all of the channels in the space that they’ve joined. That’s a ridiculous proposal because 99% of users aren’t going to go to that ridiculous effort, they’re going to be happy with the default settings. I think your idea is better than Matrix’s current setup, but it’s far worse than Discord from a usability perspective.

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    • Skullgrid@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

      What you’re proposing as a solution is that every single user in a Matrix space is responsible for sorting and grouping all of the channels in the space that they’ve joined. That’s a ridiculous proposal because 99% of users aren’t going to go to that ridiculous effort, they’re going to be happy with the default settings.

      it’s so ridiculous that it’s what IRC clients and Slack does.

      I’m sorry that I forgot to also specify that what you’re talking about could be part of the admin settings for the specific server, which is where that information should be, which again, is not going to be part of the chat protocol.

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      • Grail@multiverse.soulism.net ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

        The Matrix protocol sends the channel name and icon from server to user client. It’s one extra field to add the ordinality. Two extra fields to add the category and ordinality. Adding your idea onto My idea so users can also reorder channels after the space moderator orders them would be ideal, but please don’t mistake My suggestion for the idea you came up with.

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