Comment on Discord walks back age verification fears for most users

infinitesunrise@slrpnk.net ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

• ProdigalFrog@slrpnk.net ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

  Piggybacking off this:

  XMPP and Deltachat are two excellent decentralized, self-hostable, federated communication platforms. Deltachat is limited more to text (though it can send videos or audio files that can be played in the app like snapchat), but with XMPP, we could use Movim, which can do group video calls, screen sharing, differing permissions in groups, and even user blogs!

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  • ubergeek77@lemmy.ubergeek77.chat ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    And I believe the devs are working on adding discord-like channels with multiple groups under a single community.

    If you have a link to a discussion or issue where they’re tracking this, I’d love to follow it.

    They’ll also need to figure out how to let rooms have more than 1000 people, which is currently the limit on Movim (and it might be an XMPP limitation). Right now, Matrix seems like the only option for a Discord migration, but I hope that changes soon.

    I might move my Discord community to Matrix, but I’d want a full 100% clone of the server’s history. Seems like that’s almost possible? Discord scrapers can dump a whole channel to JSON, and the Mautrix Discord bridge already make it look like real users sent bridged messages. I think with a little customization, the Mautrix bridge could be modified to import an enormous JSON file to fully mirror an entire Discord server, instead of just grabbing messages in real time.

    I really hope someone works on that soon 🙏

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    • ProdigalFrog@slrpnk.net ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

      If you have a link to a discussion or issue where they’re tracking this, I’d love to follow it.

      They’ve mentioned needing to accelerate the development of it on their Mastodon account in light of the Discord blunder, such as here, and they just had a user poll there that resulted in Discord-like grouped channels/spaces being the most requested.

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      • ubergeek77@lemmy.ubergeek77.chat ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

        Thank you!! Really looking forward to this, Movim is already pretty nice.

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    • fossilesque@mander.xyz ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

      I just imported a server with bridge.

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      • ubergeek77@lemmy.ubergeek77.chat ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

        Every messages in your server’s entire history, or just the channel layout?

        I know the Mautrix bridge can create the channels for you, but their backfill feature was not designed for full archival, it can’t really do that.

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  • infinitesunrise@slrpnk.net ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    Movim looks very promising and I haven’t heard of it before, thanks for highlighting it. My group has been working to stand up a few Prosody (XMPP) servers but as far as client side the best we could identify was Gajim. This looks better.

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    • ProdigalFrog@slrpnk.net ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

      We host an XMPP and Movim front-end that’s accessible to all Slrpnk members using their lemmy login (it queries the same database, AFAIK), if you’d like to try it out. It’s mentioned in our sidebar and in the monthly Meta posts (I guess that shows we might not be doing a terribly good job advertising it 😅)

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