Peanut butter isn’t butter, but it’s called that because enough people agreed to call it so. It’s a useful way to referring to something that has similar properties. Likewise, if I ask for a coffee I’ll continue to ask for oat milk and not ‘oat drink’ as the latter sounds stupid.
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CombatWombatEsq@lemmy.world 15 hours ago
I agree with this, even though milk doesn’t exclusively mean dairy. A milk is the result of the process of milking, where a liquid is excreted from a host, like an animal or plant. Oat milk is oats in suspension; the oat does not remain after it has been milked like an animal or flower. I think technically I’d call it a slurry, but I’m ready for a neologism if anyone has one.
OmegaMouse@pawb.social 15 hours ago
CombatWombatEsq@lemmy.world 15 hours ago
Oat drink definitely does sound stupid, and I think oat milk will probably stay in the dialect, but have you considered we could come up with a cool cyberpunk name like “spod” or something?
OmegaMouse@pawb.social 15 hours ago
I don’t think there’s any need to come up with a better name if we have one that works perfectly well already. Maybe I’d be ok with something else, provided it was cooler than ‘spod’ :p
jol@discuss.tchncs.de 9 hours ago
No, I want to overthrow cow milk and destroy that industry. So I call all milks “milk” except cow milk, which I call cow juice.
CombatWombatEsq@lemmy.world 8 hours ago
My primary complaint about this is that it is needlessly confusing for juice consumers, since if you juice a cow you get blood, and not milk.
SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca 11 hours ago
Oat Splooge.
CombatWombatEsq@lemmy.world 8 hours ago
Also an emission and not an emulsion 😉
Perspectivist@feddit.uk 15 hours ago
A milk is the result of the process of milking
It can produce other fluids as well.
CombatWombatEsq@lemmy.world 15 hours ago
For sure, but does it make sense to call something a milk if you can’t milk something to produce it? Doesn’t milk of magnesium just feel weird? You can’t milk a magnesium.
Perspectivist@feddit.uk 15 hours ago
I was being facetious, but I actually get your point now - and yeah, I agree.
CombatWombatEsq@lemmy.world 15 hours ago
I am never more serious than when I am joking
SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca 14 hours ago
eu
kata1yst@sh.itjust.works 15 hours ago
Almond milk has been called ‘milk’ since it was first written about in the 13th century.
There is no logical reason people need the distinction made clearer 800 years later.
SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca 14 hours ago
How many writers described her skin as milky white? Burn the books!
demeritum@lemmygrad.ml 7 hours ago
People kinda forgot that medieval people couldnt just constantly rely on the lactate-carnist duploly and had several alternatives now considered “trendy” “chemical” products.
CombatWombatEsq@lemmy.world 14 hours ago
You don’t think anything at all changed experientially when almond milk was first brought to market in 1998?
kata1yst@sh.itjust.works 14 hours ago
What do you think changed?
From my perspective, people made this and used this in their own homes. It was in cookbooks. Being able to buy it in a store doesn’t change the context of 800+ years of history.
CombatWombatEsq@lemmy.world 14 hours ago
For me, home production for personal use is different than commercial production because it isn’t subject to the same health and safety standards. When you take something to market, the consumer no longer has any relation to the production process — they never looked at the cookbook, or saw an almond. You’re exposing whole classes of people to something that they do not have the kind of intimate experience with a food you’re describing. Instead, almond milk is the result of some mysterious industrial process, rather than something that comes from a cheesecloth in your kitchen. I think, experientially, buying a carton of almond milk at a store is very different than making it at home.