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Comment on Queensland moves to ban pro-Palestine slogan ‘from the river to the sea’ under sweeping new hate speech laws

Hamas has no defacto power outside of Gaza. Pa had no power because of israel and the west support for israel.

Here what should happen. The west and the usa should stop siding with israel. Israel should have cuba style sanctions to force them to end the occupation of the west bank , hamas should be asked to surrender in exchange of ending the blockade. If hamas refuse , the west should provide the PA all it needs to to destroy Hamas.

Of course it is not easy but it is logical

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wonderingwanderer@sopuli.xyz ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

Hamas has no defacto power outside of Gaza

Their de facto power in Gaza is nearly absolute (at least in the parts they still hold). The slogan in question in this post is about extending their hold to the rest of the land. It implies genociding Israelis.

hamas should be asked to surrender

No fucking shit. And when they refuse?

the west should provide the PA all it needs to to destroy Hamas

If it were that simple, they would have already been rooted out.

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- mrdown@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago
  
  Their de facto power in Gaza is nearly absolute You just repeated what I said
  
  The slogan in question in this post is about extending their hold to the rest of the land. It implies genociding Israelis.
  
  Like explained in y other comment it is not
  
  No fucking shit. And when they refuse? I already replied this in my other comment. They would be forced to surrender with PA backed western countries
  
  If it were that simple, they would have already been rooted out.
  
  I never said it is simple but when things are hard you makes more effort and not like you saying there is nothing we can do.
  
  It may already rooted out if the political will was there but no all the western countries and in fact ever China and Russia that pretend to care about Palestinians are supporting effectively Israel while pretending not not .
  
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  - wonderingwanderer@sopuli.xyz ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago
    The fact that you think forcing hamas to surrender is as simple as simply having the UN vote on it and the West getting involved would be laughable if it wasn’t so sad.
    
    Even if they did all that, people would raise a fuss about foreign intervention and western-backed influence. Hamas would still be hiding beneath hospitals and schools, using human shields, and there would still be brutal fighting in an attempt to root them out.
    
    Israel’s response has been completely disproportionate and counter to international law and human rights, but just because you suddenly support someone else with the stated purpose of eliminating hamas doesn’t immediately neutralize the complex realities of modern warfare.
    
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    mrdown@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago
    
    The fact that you think forcing hamas to surrender is as simple as simply having the UN vote on it and the West getting involved would be laughable if it wasn’t so sad.
    
    I said a million time that it is not simple. Was is so laughtable and sad is that you pretend you want a solution but still we should simply keep selling weapons to israel and have good economical and diplomatical relation with them
    
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