Comment on Discord Users Threaten Exodus Over Age Verification Face Scan Controversy

• Postmortal_Pop@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  I wanna start by saying I’m not a power user, I only use discord as a glorified chat manager for my immediate friends. That said, Stoat is everything I like about discord with a nicer ui and a public server seach function. I made an account when discord started ads and I honestly feel like it’s a little further than Lemmy was when I came here from reddit.

  Right now sign up is slow because of the huge influx of users. That said, the team is handling it well and being very transparent about it which is refreshing.

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  • Grail@multiverse.soulism.net ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    I love Stoat’s UI but video streaming is an absolute must for My use case and last I checked they said it wasn’t a priority

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    • Postmortal_Pop@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Ahh that’s fair.

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• boatswain@infosec.pub ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  I’ve been hearing good things about spacebar.chat. Stoat (formerly Revolt) is out there as well. Matrix is another possibility, but it’s more for individual channels rather than whole servers, so doesn’t fit some use cases.

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  • Grail@multiverse.soulism.net ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Does it have video streaming yet?

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    • boatswain@infosec.pub ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Sounds like it’s experimental at the moment:

      Voice/Video when?

      Currently there is experimental voice/video WebRTC support in Spacebar. UDP connections are not currently supported.

      This is a very difficult feature to get working, especially given that we must implement it the exact same way as Discord.com for client compatibility, so if you find any bugs please open an issue in Spacebar server.

      We would also be incredibly thankful for any assistance.

      docs.spacebar.chat/faq/

      So might not be ready for primetime. Voice is pretty critical to how I often use Discord. Video less so, but still important.

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      • Grail@multiverse.soulism.net ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        Sad times. I’ll be all in when a competitor gets all the essential features replicated.

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  • CatLikeLemming@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    The problem is, even if I am willing to deal with some inconveniences, many others aren’t. How am I going to move a server with >100 active users and multiple thousand inactive ones? And what about the six others I have that fit that description? There’s quite a few servers I could go without, but around a dozen that I’d much prefer not to lose.

    I’ve already been trying, but people don’t like Revolt, Nerimity, Matrix, hell I tried Mattermost. Some people are fine with some of these platforms, but there is never any remote consensus.

    At least some have cancelled their nitro subscription, making them a net loss for Discord in the future.

    Discord has, despite everything, been my primary chat/social app and to switch to something else one has to uproot absolutely everything. That’s sadly not feasible.

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    • boatswain@infosec.pub ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      It’s absolutely feasible; it’s just not painless. The network effect is real. This is something most of us here on the fediverse should be well familiar with: I’d wager we’ve all left a big proprietary centralized platform for a smaller one with less content that doesn’t exactly fit our needs. Yes, it can suck; yes, you’ll miss out on content and discussions that you would have seen before; yes, you’ll be fine in a year anyway.

      That said, it sounds like Discord is doing some backpedaling at the moment, and that the vast majority of people won’t have to do this. If that’s so, there’s some time before it enshittifies further. I’m going to use that to check out alternatives. My first step will be spinning up Matrix and a Discord bridge to see if that meets my needs. Then some of the other platforms, probably Stoat and Spacebar. I’m going to treat them as beta tests and give lots of feedback to the dev teams, which I hope will help incentivize development. I might even throw a few bucks at promising projects.

      The ultimate end of centralized platforms is decay. It’s time to get serious about Discord replacements, at least for me.

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      • Holytimes@sh.itjust.works ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        Leaving reddit for Lemmy is a solo thing. It’s a personal choice, it doesn’t effect the others around you at fucking all.

        Leaving discord for other services effects everyone around you a FUCKING LOT.

        That’s the problem. You HAVE to bring your friends or not only are you giving up possibly the only way to communicate with them effectively but also fucking them over by basically threatening them with the loss of your friendship if they don’t inconvenience themselves to try some stupid new app over a problem they don’t see as remotely worth even giving a fuck about.

        This is the problem most of us have right now. I have 3 servers with a total over nearly 2000 users combined. All 3 are talking about moving but the bare BARE minimum requirements in features and platform support doesn’t exist anywhere.

        Discord works on every OS with all its features basically. Not a single other platform can say that. Someone somewhere gets fucked because this or that is isn’t fully supported. Or some key feature doesn’t work right.

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