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Comment on Discord Users Threaten Exodus Over Age Verification Face Scan Controversy

Tetsuo@jlai.lu ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

Any source for this ?

The official announcement is quite vague and since the feature isn’t out it’s hard to know how it will work exactly.

Also, I assume the biggest risk isn’t for teens to send nudes “unprompted” but to let adults contact them and ask for them.

This for example is very vague :

Age-gated Spaces – Only users who are age-assured as adults will be able to access age-restricted channels, servers, and app commands.

So if a teen can only interact with other teens on dedicated spaces it should make it harder for perverts to ask for stuff.

And if an adult tries to pretend to be a teen he will only see blurred content ?

I’m sure many will think I’m trying to defend Discord on this but I’m not. Again we dont really know how this update will work. I’m just trying to make sure we dont spread misinformation.

There will be plenty of time to criticize Discord when they push this update.

What I’m sure of is that discord was definitely a platform of choice for many bad people to hunt and groom teens.

Personally, it’s the fact that discord says they will delete my verification data :

Identity documents submitted to our vendor partners are deleted quickly— in most cases, immediately after age confirmation.

In most cases ? Really ? Is that supposed to look trustworthy ?

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eleijeep@piefed.social ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

So if a teen can only interact with other teens on dedicated spaces it should make it harder for perverts to ask for stuff.

There is no age verification to prove you’re a teen. The age verification is to prove that you’re an adult.

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- Tetsuo@jlai.lu ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago
  Please read the end of my message.
  
  If you are a teen “by default” you will have all the restrictions of a teen until you prove you are an adult.
  
  So an adult with ill intentions should either be :
  
  A teen by default and therefore have many limitations.
  
  An adult that have limitations in reaching to teens.
  
  Again it’s what the very vague statement of Discord says. We also have no clue how their “inference model for age classification” works either…
  
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  - cmhe@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago
    So an adult could just create two accounts, one to access teen spaces, where they don’t verify their age l and one for accessing adult spaces, where the age gets verified?
    
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    Tetsuo@jlai.lu ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago
    Please read the Discord official post.
    
    one to access teen spaces,
    
    That account will be tagged as a teen account until proven otherwise. Therefore any message or DM he will receive will go to a special inbox with most likely warnings to consult it.
    
    Please, again, I understand that the pitchforks are out for discord, I’m just asking you to take the time to read the official discord post from top to bottom.
    
    There will still be unknowns until they release the update but your question is already answered by their official post.
    
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bearboiblake@pawb.social ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago
The age restrictions for Discord were implemented already in my country a few months ago, that’s why I know it works that way

For what it’s worth, I’m a survivor of childhood sexual abuse and online grooming, and IMO this policy does not make vulnerable kids any safer at all. As a kid, growing up, I was desperate for any validation and even kindness because of my neglectful/abusive home situation and that need was exploited by adults who provided me the emotional connection I needed/wanted, which was then twisted into a romantic/sexual relationship. That’s the risk, and all it needs is a basic chat functionality - once it has started, the groomer can very easily help the young person bypass any and all “protections” through any number of methods, including just switching to another platform.

The reality is that most kids are far more at danger from abusive adults in their lives - their parents, family, friends, teachers, etc. - than they are at danger from the Internet. The reason I was vulnerable to abuse online is because I was already abused IRL. If you (or anyone) has concerns about their kids safety online, by far the best thing you can do is just to be there for them, be a trustworthy, kind and loving adult in their lives. That way, when creeps online talk to them, they won’t be needy for the attention, they won’t be vulnerable.

Anyways, went off on kind of a tangent, but I hope it’s helpful/informative anyways.

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- PhoenixDog@lemmy.world ⁨13⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago
  It might not mean much, but thank you for sharing that!
  
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