Comment on Discord Users Threaten Exodus Over Age Verification Face Scan Controversy
Wildmimic@anarchist.nexus 4 days agoOr just use Steam - which the average Discord user has already installed. Supports Chats, Groups, Voice Chat, Streaming, Discussion Boards that are discoverable, solid 2FA authentication… only thing missing is Video Calls, which they could implement easily when looking at what is already there.
The problem with steam is that it will eventually go the same way.
At the moment the internet is being used by big tech similar to a sheepdog rounding up sheep. Hopefully most will refuse this and move platform, that platform will eventually attempted to be broken down and register a few more users etc. If you have younger siblings or kids, they’re fucked. Unless you educate them about their privacy and how important it is.
Well, Valve hasn’t done so for about 20 years now, how long do people have to give a company that has proven again and again that they are not in the game for extracting maximum value out of their client base? I’d love for a FOSS solution to pick up the slack, but none are currently in a state where they can pick up millions of non-technical minded users in a heartbeat. Valve has those users already, so they are able to provide a solution NOW, not in a few years.
Should Valve eventually start enshittifying, which would require going public first, maybe there will be a readily usable FOSS solution. For now, it’s one of the easiest routes out of Discord (and the content on the Steam Forums is scrapeable over the web, so it’s pretty easy to transfer out, not like discord)
Gabe’s son is set to inherit the family company. Remember steam is for all purposes a family business.
Assuming Gabe retires in the next decade then his son works for 20-30 years we have another 30-40 years before steam goes to shit.
Unless an out side force actively fucks with valve and Gabe’s family to force things to become worse. It’s unlikely it will get worse.
voracitude@lemmy.world 4 days ago
Just move back to the flood plain every time your house gets swept away, rebuild on the side of the volcano every eruption, and keep moving to proprietary platforms every time one enshittifies. Right?
Wrong. You’re here on the fediverse because you know that’s wrong. We need an alternative, but right now they’re all pretty tough to set up by ourselves. For example, I’m once again working on getting revolt/stoat running, and it’s pain (probably mostly due to my environment, I might give up and put it on its own machine).
Wildmimic@anarchist.nexus 4 days ago
I don’t think that Valve has that game plan, as they have proven again and again for about 20 years now. Having no shareholders really keeps them grounded. But you’re right, a completely FOSS solution that is easy to use would be preferable - but in the short term Steam communities might get an upswing.
voracitude@lemmy.world 3 days ago
I don’t disagree with your view of Valve, but their reputation isn’t the point.
Wildmimic@anarchist.nexus 3 days ago
Yeah, i DO like valve, because they are as good as it can get for a company in the tech sector. But my comment was more from a “we need a replacement now"-perspective, where Steam is a top contender for sure (and the content there is actually discoverable which gives an out).
Hopefully the scare and the issue of getting out content of discord makes sure that there is a solution ready for the next time the shit hits the fan.
Postmortal_Pop@lemmy.world 4 days ago
My game plan here is that I’m moving everyone I can to Stoat. It’s not likely to go the corpo route any time soon. From there I plan on figuring out a matrix server and streamlining the process for my less dedicated friends the same way I did jellyfin.
Holytimes@sh.itjust.works 2 days ago
… Steam is basically a family owned business it’s literally the exact example of what a perfectly acceptable large business is.
And fuck I ain’t here cause I know something wrong. The fuck you get that idea from. I’m here because reddit doesn’t have a good app that’s literally it. I would happily go back to reddit if i could have my old app back.
voracitude@lemmy.world 2 days ago
And they used to, didn’t they? Can you remember what happened to those apps, and why? That’s right, they stopped working, because Reddit closed off their API, which can’t happen here.
So I guess you are here because you know that something is wrong with reddit, after all. You said so yourself.