Comment on Russia Launches First Brain-Chipped Bird Drones for Surveillance Over Cities

• OptimusPrimeDownfall@discuss.tchncs.de ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

  You are putting a lot of faith in a people that can’t even build a competent tank.

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  • vacuumflower@lemmy.sdf.org ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    You do, of course, understand that this has nothing in common with building a tank?

    You do also understand that (just guessing) if you’re from a German instance, then probably everyone of consequence involved in designing military hardware in Russia has better knowledge of their domain area than people analogous to them from German MIC and military? Simply due to experience gained. That does apply to tanks.

    Anyway. I don’t know if it’s real, but you just go and read whose company it is. It might be.

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    • OptimusPrimeDownfall@discuss.tchncs.de ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

      While it as has nothing directly to do with building a tank, the fact that russia can’t design and build a tank that doesn’t play turret toss when it gets hit with a shell or break down in the middle of a parade DOES have a lot in common with this - it’s called brain drain.

      Literally all of the smartest young people left Russia because the pay was bad and the prospects for living were better I’m the west.

      You say thag everyone of consequence involved in designing military equipment in russia has better knowledge than Germany? Due to what experience, getting their World War 2 era tanks pulled out of the mud by Ukrainian tractors? They can’t even build more than a handful of the newest tank and then never send them into war. They haven’t fielded new equipment eccept inaccurate artillery shells.

      You’re wanting to claim a country that experienced that amount of brain drain is can do cutting edge brain surgery?? What, did they lobotomize you first?

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      • vacuumflower@lemmy.sdf.org ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

        the fact that russia can’t design and build a tank that doesn’t play turret toss when it gets hit with a shell or break down in the middle of a parade DOES have a lot in common with this - it’s called brain drain.

        Older Soviet tanks play turret toss, you know why? Their automatic loading system is optimized for fire rates, but not safety. You know why that and what that achieves? That achieves a whole lot of tanks built during Soviet times for mass ground warfare in the WWIII as it was imagined then. When it’s one safer NATO tank against 5 worse but comparable (and fast-firing) Soviet tanks for the same expense, the choice (with Soviet doctrine) is obvious.

        There was no brain drain then, these were all conscious design decisions making a difference of the scale of hundreds of tanks built.

        Literally all of the smartest young people left Russia because the pay was bad and the prospects for living were better I’m the west.

        Unfortunately no.

        You say thag everyone of consequence involved in designing military equipment in russia has better knowledge than Germany? Due to what experience, getting their World War 2 era tanks pulled out of the mud by Ukrainian tractors?

        You are a few years late even in talking about tanks.

        That’s also something most Russians have passively understood by now about modern warfare, it’s all about information, planning, coordination done by many small drones, with humans reduced to techs and operators and, of course, small assault groups. Tanks have no place in that.

        You’re wanting to claim a country that experienced that amount of brain drain is can do cutting edge brain surgery??

        Brain drain is something that was happening when plenty of Soviet-educated engineers and scientists simply had no place in ex-Soviet countries, or by any measure the offers they could get were far better in the West. Right now there’s no coordinated incentive for said brain drain from the western governments. Which was a thing then.

        Right now - yes, I think oil money that buys western components for weapons can buy expertise in areas of interest.

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  • real_squids@sopuli.xyz ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    I know I’m just theorizing

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• worhui@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

  This is a remote control situation. The bird would do bird things once out of a control signal. They aren’t claiming full override and programming. I could easily see strapping a camera to a pigeon and training it. Maybe even remotely monitoring it and using a pre-trained electrical pulse to change direction.

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  • real_squids@sopuli.xyz ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    yea true, they did mention preloading flight paths, so it might be radio-less (apart from gps ig)

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