Comment on ‘Capitalism is dead. Now we have something much worse’: Yanis Varoufakis on extremism, Starmer, and the tyranny of big tech

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• Redredme@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  This is a weird take. Just because someone is (or has been) successful he can’t speak about or for socialism?

  You can’t be successful and a socialist? Is that it? That’s a very narrow and simply wrong view which has resulted in a lot of damage in societies which adopted it.

  Socialism needs succes stories. Otherwise, what’s the point? Mediocrity for all? That will never fly or become popular.

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  • the_q@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    The problem is he doesn’t walk the walk. His success comes from capitalism. He’s very well off because of capitalism.

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    • ReadyUser31@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      So you can only critique capitalism if you’re unsuccessful? That doesn’t make any sense.

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      • admin@lemmy.my-box.dev ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        Sure you can. It’s just that it comes across a whole lot less hypocritical coming from someone who hasn’t first exploited that system themselves.

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      • the_q@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        Why would someone talk about the pitfalls of a system while benefiting from that system?

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    • HaggierRapscallier@feddit.nl ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Which country doesn’t engage in that economic arrangement?

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      • the_q@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        By choice or by circumstance? The rich profit from capitalism therefore they use their wealth to maintain the system that is benefiting them the most. The poor have to participate in varying degrees just to survive.

        You think people choose to bust their asses for $8/hr?

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  • admin@lemmy.my-box.dev ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    He was also the financial advisor of sorts at Valve, the company that takes a 30% of all their pc game sales.

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    • Torvum@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      20% after the initial $50 million. The same company that has used that revenue to revolutionize Linux as a gaming platform. Same company that helped fix graphics api integrations. Same company that actually cares about their consumers and the gaming ecosystem?

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      • admin@lemmy.my-box.dev ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        Pretty sure all those things happened after Yanis left, so I don’t think it’s fair to contribute those changes to him.

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  • doomer@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    He’s had a very visible career so it’s actually pretty clear what his views are. He is not at all a socialist, he is a SocDem. He likes neoliberalism with some safety nets.

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• doublejay1999@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  Google “how many islands in Greece” and bathe in light of knowledge .

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  • sab@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Maybe make your point yourself, instead of asking people to Google it for you?

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    • WldFyre@lemm.ee ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      The point is that Greece is a fucking island lmfao

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  • admin@lemmy.my-box.dev ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    I googled “how much does a Greek island home cost?” instead, it told me they are as cheap as 3 million euros, and I don’t think that includes the house or other facilities.

    I’m not sure I get your point.

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    • doublejay1999@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      You’re doing a great job of making yourself look very silly.

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      • admin@lemmy.my-box.dev ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        I suppose that’s once way of not answering the question.

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• RobotToaster@mander.xyz ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  Man, people like you would have dismissed Engels for the same reason.

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  • SlikPikker@lemmy.ca ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    And they should have because Engels was not only a Capitalist with contradicting class interests to our-

    But a lot of his shit is just terrible, for example “oN aUtHoRiTy”, the “book” that really shows Tankies can’t read.

    Engels should be dismissed the fuck out of.

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• OsmerusMordax@sh.itjust.works ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  To be fair, rich (and effectively retired) people have more time to think about larger issues, whilst the rest of us are trying to make enough for rent and food. So while one can make the argument that he is out of touch, one can also argue that if it were up to the single parent working two jobs to think about global issues and write books about them, it probably wouldn’t happen.

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• iByteABit@lemm.ee ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  Remind me, was Marx a part of the struggling proletariat?

  The answer is no, he was a human being that cared about others besides him and his own.

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