Comment on Martin Scorsese urges filmmakers to fight comic book movie culture: ‘We’ve got to save cinema’
andrewrgross@slrpnk.net 1 year ago
That movie sounds dope.
As for the other part, I love comic book movies, but still agree. I think he might get more agreement if he reframed it as a complaint about homginization. For instance, I think The Batman was surprisingly fresh. Whereas the Flash was like… high end tv, maybe? Like, not BAD, but you’ve gotta ask: how many people will watch it five years from now? What ideas or artistic images is it introducing?
I think some comic movies --Black Panther, for instance – move culture and inspire new stories. But a lot don’t. I’ve heard it said that the modern studio system could never make Back to the Future or Ghostbusters, and I think that’s true. A lot needs to change about how these are financed and distributed to make that not the case.
ech@lemm.ee 1 year ago
What does this even mean?
SnowdenHeroOfOurTime@unilem.org 1 year ago
It obviously means studios wouldn’t take a chance on something “wacky” which is a change that prevents as much actual creativity from getting to audiences
ech@lemm.ee 1 year ago
Big money has and will always chase success. That some people don’t like the current trends doesn’t mean it’s the downfall of the industry, and it doesn’t mean things were better or different in the past. And why should we be bothered about trends anyway? Indy film has been killing it for ages now and anybody that cares is looking there for innovation, not at profit driven studios.
SnowdenHeroOfOurTime@unilem.org 1 year ago
As many people have pointed out, if all the money gets spent on ironman 72, movies like pulp fiction can’t be funded. Yeah indie films are great, but there was also a time that movies in that same vein could reach hundreds of millions in the mainstream, and that impact on culture was a good one imo
AsimovsRobot@lemmy.world 1 year ago
Probably talking about new IPs? Studios are pretty risk averse nowadays.
andrewrgross@slrpnk.net 1 year ago
I apologize, but the case was made to be in a long and very compelling article that I don’t have a link for.
I think it was about consolidation, and how the lack of diversity in small independent theaters and small independent distributors robbed movies that weren’t copies of successful films the chance to become surprise hits.
Now, most theaters are chains, and they’re largely owned by the same entities that own distributors. So everywhere shows the same films, and there’s no one to take a chance on something different or risky.
ech@lemm.ee 1 year ago
Gotcha. Yeah, vertical integration, such as studios owning theaters, has been a longstanding back-and-forth struggle in film. Most dramatically seen back in the “Golden Age” where studios basically owned the whole process, from actors to theaters. Even if we’re swinging back towards studio domination (or are already there), the Internet really changes things to the point I don’t think it’s gonna be the downfall of anything. Distribution is simply too easy to be entirely dominated by established studios like it was before.
andrewrgross@slrpnk.net 1 year ago
When you say this I feel like you’re explaining how competition in healthcare is providing incredible choice for patients at incredibly low prices. Because what you’re saying sounds very reasonable in theory, but just doesn’t seem to match up with the reality we’re living in.