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• Earthman_Jim@lemmy.zip ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

  exactly

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  • hector@lemmy.today ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    Yeah it’s a coin toss whether they would want to check us out further, or use the galactic form of chlorine on the area.

    But odds are they would neither specifically know nor care. In likelihood I imagine there is other life, and not all based on carbon and water. There could be life on gas giants, even on suns, based on completely different chemical interactions.

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    • Earthman_Jim@lemmy.zip ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

      I also think about this a lot. For all we know the storm on Jupiter is thinking.

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      • hector@lemmy.today ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

        Even humble life on it’s moons, living with ammonia in it’s blood or something, as they found on titan. Lakes of methane, with methane rain replete with lightning. Volcanic eruptions of water mixed with ammonia that kept it from freezing and had it in a semi solid molten state at -200 degrees f or whatever it is. From the probe landed there, forget when that was, on titan. But life could exist even there, even if not higher life, they do have liquid bodies. That is the factor for life, the right liquid to gas temperature changes with the right chemical reactions, and the spar of zeus.

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• partofthevoice@lemmy.zip ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

  I disagree completely, and I am not a believer in any god. You care about things as a human, but (should a god exist) don’t you think it a step too far to assume a gods experience would be anything at all like our own? Whether it cares or doesn’t may be the wrong question entirely — too anthropic of a question. Even if it did have the human sense of care in its faculty of psychology, something that entirely be a social construct, then wouldn’t it equally so be arrogant to assume what a creator does/not care about? A creator might care a lot about you, and sees suffering as some kind of tough love… who the hell can say? The universe could be infinite, and that could simply be a preference in design. Who the hell can say?

  God isn’t our enemy, whether or not it exists. Our enemy is the people who claim to speak for god.

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  • hector@lemmy.today ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    What I’m trying to say is I believe in the utterly indifferent god. It likely neither knows nor cares about us. We would go to church about it, but what’s the point?

    We do not have all the answers, and we should accept that, from our position on this speck of dust in the unimaginably larger system we live amongst, we should just embrace that we don’t know everything, despite the experts telling us affirmatively the age and size of the universe as if they could know, or the religious leaders espousing ideas the age of reason has proven to be wrong.

    Part of wisdom is accepting what you don’t, and what you can’t know.

    I don’t really disagree with much of what your responded with however. Creator is a nebulous term. Creating biological machines that evolve to meet their conditions become rather removed from those creators if separated by unimaginable large distances between solar systems. There is no way any being seeding life would survive to watching it evolve over billions of years, even if some form of transport could break the speed of light, which I believe to be impossible.

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    • partofthevoice@lemmy.zip ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

      Yeah, I’m agreeing with you more now.

      I’ve thought a lot about god and decided that, even if it does exist, my best way to honor it would be to live my life honestly and freely as though it does not exist.

      I’ve considered the argument about the size of the universe, with us being specks of dust in all of that…that perspective does make us seem insignificant, until (IMO) you consider that we humans (as far as we know) are the only species in the whole universe that even tries to worship a god. We’re matter that asks about morals, and it’s possible you might only find that here on Earth. Given, we’re the center of the epistemological universe — not the ontological one.

      I’m not saying that’s necessarily true. I am saying, however, that there are angles while make us more significant even in this big universe.

      Personally, I like to think of God as being the first thing that could move. It very well may be explained as a quirk of quantum mechanics that results in the state of nothing being inherently unstable — allowing for something to arise. We are beings of that something which this mechanic produced, and that’s godly enough (relative to me) for me.

      Again, I’m not saying that’s what god is necessarily. That’s just how I think about it.

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