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• WanderingThoughts@europe.pub ⁨5⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

  Radiators in space are a proven tech. In practice that just means more expensive to build and launch.

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  • Iseja@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    Yeah it is a proven tech but requires quite a lot of space/weight and usually when satellites get the most energy from solar panels they also “generate” the most heat.

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• MrScottyTay@sh.itjust.works ⁨5⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

  But space is cold

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  • realitista@lemmus.org ⁨5⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    It’s a vacuum. Which means that there aren’t atoms to get hot or cold. Which means there is no medium with which to exchange heat to cool something down, unless you are willing to bring a bunch of your own air to blow over the servers and then vent into space. Which means bringing an awful lot of air with you.

    A server sitting in the vacuum of space would quickly over heat for lack of ventilation (if it didn’t get smashed because it wasn’t engineered to run in a vacuum).

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    • MrScottyTay@sh.itjust.works ⁨5⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

      I wasn’t being serious by the way, but thanks for the detailed explanation of why, always appreciated to know the actual ins and outs no matter the topic.

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      • realitista@lemmus.org ⁨5⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

        Wait, I just did some research and it turns out I’m partially wrong about this.

        While I am correct that you can’t cool in the way we do on earth by bringing cool air to carry away the heat, there is another way to cool things as used by space stations and satellites.

        That is you can take the heat and radiate it into space as Infrared radiation. IR radiation is able to travel through space as it is made of photons.

        So I am wrong. I’m not sure how effective this would be for the amount of heat generated by servers, but it’s not actually fully disqualified as I thought it would be.

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  • mcv@lemmy.zip ⁨5⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    Space feels cold if you have some fluid to evaporate, like blood or something. But servers will very quickly run out of whatever fluids they have if they tried this. (And so would you in their place.)

    The only option to sustainably lose heat in space is radiation, which works, but is slow and limited in capacity, so these server satellites would need massive radiators. It’s not impossible to do. ISS also has massive radiators.

    So servers in space is possible. How big you can make an orbital server park, I don’t know. I can imagine that with enough radiators, they start catching each other’s heat, so there might be a limit to have many radiators you can put closely together, but I have no idea what that limit might be.

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