Comment on Firefox's AI Kill Switch Lands in Firefox Nightly, Slated for Firefox 148

finalarbiter@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

• XLE@piefed.social ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Mozilla’s CEO also recently said they would be building new products based on pre-established trust. I think they got their chronology wrong on that too…

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  • finalarbiter@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Right, what trust? The trust they lost by putting dumbass MBAs in charge who don’t know shit and chase short term profits over sustaining a healthy community?

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• whereIsTamara@lemmy.org ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  I’m not going to argue for AI features in Firefox, but I’m curious which features you feel are a priority?

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  • finalarbiter@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    I think you misunderstood what I said, or perhaps I wasn’t clear. I’m saying the killswitch should have been in place from day one when they started implementing ai features.

    That said, Mozilla seems to fundamentally misunderstand their market. The type of people who use firefox are generally pretty tech-savvy, and care about things like privacy and control over their experience. Rather than hone in on features that their users want, they have hitched their wagon to the ai hype train in an attempt to favor curry with the masses.

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    • whereIsTamara@lemmy.org ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Right. Like what features?

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      • Zedstrian@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        Improving webapp functionality rather than stuffing more and more AI down our throats, for instance.

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      • surewhynotlem@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        I dunno about that guy. I’d like proper PWA support. Better VR integration. Both in Linux.

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      • frongt@lemmy.zip ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        Full profile sync would be nice

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      • finalarbiter@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        Off the top of my head:

        • better/more consistent sync
        • container windows
        • setting a default container for ctrl+t (and maybe shortcuts for other containers)
        • a more user-friendly version of about:config
        • more control for automatic data deletion aside from manual and when firefox closes (e.g. delete history+cookies older than 30 days)

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      • gustofwind@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        A few bug/glitches I noticed and performance improvements are always welcome (I don’t think running ai services and integrations will improve performance)

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    • 8uurg@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Privacy concerns are valid when an external server needs to be queried, like if you were to use DeepL or Google Translate for this stuff, or for any LLM related muck, but they have been accounting for this already by making things work locally. For example, translations performed fully on device, and are an example of a feature I wanted.

      Like many here, the entire AI browser idea doesn’t appeal to me at all, but I also struggle to come up with ‘features their users want’ if I take myself as an example. I have previously used Vivaldi, and while it is much more full featured, it doesn’t add any features that I actually end up using frequently.

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  • vikingtons@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    The graphene community in the past has pointed out Firefox’s incomplete content sandboxing implementation and suggested that other aspects of security are not up to chromiums standard. They pointed out other technical shortcomings as well, though I can’t recall them, I’m not sure how urgent they’d be.

    This was several years ago, and I’m not sure if any of this has been addressed, but I don’t think I wouldn’t like to rely on manifest v3 compliant ad blocking.

    I get the impression that Firefox may continue to lag in this regard. I don’t feel that people like us are made vulnerable by this, though I do worry a little bit about people like my parents.

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  • Appoxo@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    I don’t think the majority of FF users are very interested in AI stuff.

    I use it. But more as a tool in a whole collection rather than as the single point of truth (as many others do)

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    • whereIsTamara@lemmy.org ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      I use AI, but I can’t imagine wanting it inside the browser just randomly doing stuff.

      I think this is just one of those things when people try to squeeze AI into Everything.

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      • Appoxo@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        True.

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