Comment on Epic Games CEO Tim Sweeney supports the $900 million lawsuit against Valve, arguing Steam is "the only major store still holding onto payment ties and 30% junk fee"

• richardwallass@sh.itjust.works ⁨9⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  How do you call a corporate driving 75% of the digital distribution market for PC games ?

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• HailSeitan@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

  And ecommerce sellers don’t “have to” sell on Amazon, so they don’t have any market power they can abuse to extract 40-50% fees from sellers, right?

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  • pennomi@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    They don’t. My small business sells direct from our site instead of in Amazon, and we do okay.

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    • HailSeitan@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

      Anecdotes are not data!

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      • pennomi@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

        While that’s true, counterexamples are great ways to disprove overreaching implications like “companies must sell on Amazon to be successful”.

        It is not a requirement. It might be the most profitable way to run an e-commerce business (in which case you’re obviously benefiting from the system Amazon created).

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  • Pollo_Jack@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    Amazon requires price matching for most sellers, which is shit and makes this an apples to oranges comparison.

    Could Steam back down on their 30% cut? Sure, but not a monopoly.

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    • HailSeitan@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

      It’s not apples to oranges, because the network effects (and coercive pressures they create) are in fact incredibly similar: sellers have to go where most customers are, and most PC gamers begin and end their search for games on Steam, just like most online shoppers begin and end their searches on Amazon.

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      • ulterno@programming.dev ⁨16⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        I get I am not the average gamer, but even if I find a game on Steam, I tend to check their website too.
        Specially for games I like, I try getting the GoG version despite Steam providing regional pricing, which tends to be 0.2x

        Now if any of Steam’s contracts is preventing GoG or others from providing regional pricing, that’s a point worth considering.
        But Steam is providing a much better game finding experience than Epic and others (although GoG seems to be doing well too, recently), so despite me not being affected by the network effect, I do see some value in Steam.

        From what I see, Steam does give value to gamers. Whether it’s 30% of the game’s price or lesser, depends upon information that I don’t know.

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• ToTheGraveMyLove@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

  Its an effective monopoly, that’s not really disputable. This lawsuit isn’t even about them having a monopoly, its about them allegedly abusing it.

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