Tbh it’s not much different than search engines. You need to learn how to use them and when it’s appropriate to do so…it’s basically a skill issue 🤷♀️
Reminds me of when search engines first arrived and we were taught very early in school how library research works and then when to use digital academic databases vs regular search engines or just hit the books.
And yeah tech support is a great use case and you can just use the Gemini links that send you to the Reddit threads where the information came from to verify it.
I feel like if you’re minimally responsible it’s pretty hard to have AI backfire on you
krashmo@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
That’s cool. I did all of that without AI coming from a similar place as you. AI didn’t open up a new path for you, it just showed you a path that already existed, which isn’t any different from what a regular search engine can do. There was nothing stopping you from finding that path on your own except your unwillingness to look.
howrar@lemmy.ca 2 weeks ago
Willingness to look is a pretty important factor. LLMs reduce the personal cost incurred to look up information, similar to how search engines saved us from having to go to the library for every question we had.
krashmo@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
They also introduce much more uncertainty and remove your ability to judge the trustworthiness of the information you’re receiving. That’s not to mention the social and environmental costs.
howrar@lemmy.ca 2 weeks ago
You could say the same about people who used the early 2000s Google by entering full questions with natural language and clicking “I’m feeling lucky”. There are always going to be wrong ways to use a tool. But we’re discussing whether there exists a right way. And that right way includes verifying the information you receive, just like you would if you found it through a regular search engine.
The social and environmental costs are real. That’s not the criticism you gave and not what the responses are disagreeing with.
Nikelui@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
They presented to you a reasonable use case (assisted learning) and your response was “lol, you’re just lazy. Do it on your own”.
I am in a similar position, networking is Martian to me and if I search guides on how to do stuff, it’s full of people that go “just use X to do a reverse proxy”, as if I have 200h of experience under my belt. I’d rather have a chatbot explain to me like I am 5 in some cases.
gustofwind@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
I don’t consider myself a “proponent” of ai and I think it gives dependent and lazy people brain damage lol
But these people seem like complete contrarian Luddites who just want to insist it’s bad because they don’t like it and have seen too many negative memes about it
krashmo@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
“I think AI is bad but other people who say so are weird”
mmk
krashmo@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
You are being lazy. If “I have to learn how to do this” is too high of a bar to clear for you then maybe you’re just not supposed to do that thing. Setting up a self hosted environment is pointless if you don’t know at the least the basics about how it works. It will break sooner or later and if you just typed whatever random characters your computer told you then you’ll never be able to fix it. You won’t even be able to describe to ChatGPT what the problem is.
AI is making learning harder, not easier. It’s flooding the internet with bullshit and you’re acting like that’s a good thing. When you’re learning something new you need to know that your teacher knows what they’re doing. An AI summary might be pulled from a network engineers blog or it might be the sanitized ramblings of a schizophrenic pedophile who tries to host CSM on his smart toaster. As a beginner, you can’t tell the difference, especially when an AI rewrites the crazy and presents it in an authoritative manner.
Yes, learning new things can be hard but the internet is already the shortcut. Quit trying to outsource even more of it.