It’s not some theoretical topic, it’s the reality for China, Russia, Iran. They do block commonly used VPN protocols, so people now use VPN with obfuscations. Some work, some doesn’t, some stop working as time goes. So when people say “Ha-ha, I’ll just use VPN”, it will help you for some time but the trend is they will make it a problem for you, better start preparing before it happened.
They fully can’t, there’s too many legitimate reasons that their corporate overlords use it for, the most you’ll get is loud filibuster about “we’ll totally do that!” until the topic gets forgotten
Again, that’s not some theoretical topic. They can block most VPNs, they do so in China, Russia, Iran. And there are no riots on the streets, their corporate overlords don’t do anything against it. One of the reasons is that they do allow ipsec for corporate clients. Are you a corporate client? Do you use ipsec for vpn? Are there riots on the streets for this censorship instance?
The “tech experts” in government are fucking idiots, almost every single one of them.
And I know for a fact that those blocks in China and Russia don’t work, cause I talk to a Russian on the daily (she wants to get the fuck out, but hasn’t got enough money)
pressanykeynow@lemmy.world 2 months ago
What vpn obfuscations do you use? Because you know they’ll block vpn next.
ragas@lemmy.ml 2 months ago
You can probably block companies offering public VPN services.
But good luck blocking VPN in general.
pressanykeynow@lemmy.world 2 months ago
It’s not some theoretical topic, it’s the reality for China, Russia, Iran. They do block commonly used VPN protocols, so people now use VPN with obfuscations. Some work, some doesn’t, some stop working as time goes. So when people say “Ha-ha, I’ll just use VPN”, it will help you for some time but the trend is they will make it a problem for you, better start preparing before it happened.
cley_faye@lemmy.world 2 months ago
Anything encrypted is blocked. Boom, done.
Is it stupid? Yes. Never stopped lawmakers.
ragas@lemmy.ml 2 months ago
How do you know if something is encrypted?
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Subliminal_channel en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steganography
Or for more practical implementations: blog.frost.kiwi/ssh-over-https-tunneling/ nurdletech.com/linux-notes/ssh/via-http.html
PieMePlenty@lemmy.world 2 months ago
I knew HTTP would make a return without its brother TLS someday!
myfunnyaccountname@lemmy.zip 2 months ago
There several sites I visit I have to fight with cause of VPN blocking.
Taldan@lemmy.world 2 months ago
That isn’t blocking VPNs, it’s blocking requests from data centers. Important distinction
gwl@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 months ago
They fully can’t, there’s too many legitimate reasons that their corporate overlords use it for, the most you’ll get is loud filibuster about “we’ll totally do that!” until the topic gets forgotten
pressanykeynow@lemmy.world 2 months ago
Again, that’s not some theoretical topic. They can block most VPNs, they do so in China, Russia, Iran. And there are no riots on the streets, their corporate overlords don’t do anything against it. One of the reasons is that they do allow ipsec for corporate clients. Are you a corporate client? Do you use ipsec for vpn? Are there riots on the streets for this censorship instance?
gwl@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 months ago
You think the UK could?
The “tech experts” in government are fucking idiots, almost every single one of them.
And I know for a fact that those blocks in China and Russia don’t work, cause I talk to a Russian on the daily (she wants to get the fuck out, but hasn’t got enough money)