Comment on Cost of living is up. Paychecks are not. And workers are not OK.

inclementimmigrant@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

• Viking_Hippie@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

  Wages have been stagnant or dropping compared to cost of living since the fucking SEVENTIES!

  How many more decades will it take for you to understand that the problem is the system and the ones in charge of it rather than the mostly powerless masses oppressed by it?

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  • inclementimmigrant@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    Then get off your ass and vote in the elections and primaries and get change going there bucko. Instead anywhere from 50% to 40% of American are more than willing to do fuck all and just bitch on the internet of why things never change.

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• timmy_dean_sausage@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

  Yeah! Also, the various voter suppression tactics, gerrymandering, two party system, majority of elected politicians being in the pocket of moneyed interests, working class people being too overworked to want to bother with interacting with a system that consistently does very little for them… I mean, I vote in every local/national election, even when it’s just ballot measures, and I’m disappointed when people I know don’t/ can’t vote, but I also can understand why people with difficult situations don’t/ can’t vote.

  My one exception is people that didn’t vote in the '24 presidential election to punish democratic leadership. Those people intentionally chose fascism and chaos, hand in hand with the maga crowd.

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  • inclementimmigrant@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    Nothing but crap bullshit excuses outside of gerrymandering and even then, if you didn’t vote or voted Republican that’s on you and are part of the problem/reason we’re all in this mess.

    Get removed off your voter roll, you had time to get back on. You don’t like politicians being in the pocket of corporations, well get your ass and vote in the primaries. Oh, I have to work, MF’er polls are open early in the morning and into the evening and yeah having a shit job sucks and yeah waiting in long lines sucks balls but if you wanted to save America, well that’s what you suck it up and do it with your kids in tow.

    However, when you have ~40% of the population that can’t be arsed to vote but complain about how bad things are for them, well honestly after 20+ years of voting, living that working class life while voting, in a state that did the attempt to suppress the vote which of course my immigrant family was a target of. I lived through most of what you outlined and while they are explanations, they’re not an excuse and honestly American, including myself are just getting what we collectively allowed to happen here.

    Welcome to stupid fascist hell that Americans allowed to happen.

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    • timmy_dean_sausage@lemmy.world ⁨18⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      I mostly agree with you. My point was, I think you get a pass if you’re a wage slave. Some people work 12+ hours a day and have a hard time making time for anything outside of their hardcore work schedules. There’s a level of poverty that is basically crippling. People in that situation shouldn’t be looked down on because they don’t have the privilege to participate in things that don’t really benefit them anyways.

      I completely agree that, if you don’t vote, you don’t get to complain. That goes for the group I mentioned above as well.

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