Nope.
“Socialism involves people owning the means of production (whether in a market economy or a planned one). Communism involves exactly that as well, but in a classless stateless moneyless society. No class war, no state, no money, no problem.”
starlinguk@lemmy.world 7 hours ago
Airowird@lemmy.blahaj.zone 6 hours ago
Socialism is a form of government where the equality of people comes first.
The entire US anti-socialist kneejerk is because Marx said that socialism as a stepping stone to communism is the only non-violent way to get there
Socialist democracy allows for capitalism, as long as the government protects its people from the capitalist tendancy to turn into an oligarchy.
DylanMc6@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 hours ago
Are you talking about market socialism?
Airowird@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 hours ago
Sorta, depending on your exact definition.
More of a Lassalle flavour of socialism than Marx, at the very least.
Pragmatically, state-less communism is a utopia reliant on all members following its principles. A state is required to defend against greed, both from the outside as from within.
Wwhether you call it market socialism or social democracy, the concept of a state limits capitalism to serve its people first, while also granting as much freedom possible by “allowing” capitalism, seems to be the closest one can get to Marxism while still defending against tyranny.
Society is a living thing and must be able to both change and defend itself. Socialist states are prone to tyranny from within, where as pure communist utopia has little to no defense from foreign entities. A democratic government in service of the people is the best way I’m aware of to achieve the core socialist principles.