Every single time anyone brings up Biden’s problems, the response is downvotes and “Doesn’t matter because Trump exists.” And I’m sure you’ve heard the mantra of “Vote blue no matter who!”
Are you sure the down votes are not because of what you said instead of who you said it about?
When it comes to "Vote blue no matter who" it is because team red has no plan other than get their guy in office. That guy fomented an insurrection, we all saw it happen live. That guy has already promised retribution if elected. There are groups readying plans to fire "non-loyal" federal workers the day that guy takes office and replace them with sycophants. That is literally an existential crisis for our country.
In addition, team red has tried to stop aid to Ukraine, repeatedly. Nobody outside of team red thinks it should be cut. Doing so would only benefit Russia.
Team red believes so much misinformation that they do not know how far out of touch with reality they are.
Yeah it's not about Dems thinking anyone is infallible. Largely they're pretty clear about denouncing their own when it's deserved. It's about being presented a ballot where your options are a polished turd or a fresh smelly chili shart plopped into a bowl and poured on your head. There are no good choices to vote republican, and when presented with this dichotomy I'll vote blue every time until a better option is presented to me. Get better candidates and then we'll talk.
That said I don't disagree with the core of your statement here. The whole institution is rotten to the core. I'm just tired of people projecting hero-worship onto democratic voters. That's a republican thing. We don't really do that. You have to earn the respect of democrats. I voted for Biden because I couldn't stomach another round of Trump and was presented no other option, and I'll do it again if I have to. Doesn't mean I love him. Doesn't mean I even particularly like him, because I don't really, I think he sticks too close to the status quo. But he's by far the lesser of two evils.
The downvotes are probably from people conditioned from experience to be dealing with rabid trumptards that either won't or can't listen to any viewpoint. A majority of arguments that begin with "But Biden-" fall into that category. Dems will listen to and readily agree with legitimate criticism, it just has to be couched within an intelligent argument.
danielton@lemmy.frozeninferno.xyz 1 year ago
Every single time anyone brings up Biden’s problems, the response is downvotes and “Doesn’t matter because Trump exists.” And I’m sure you’ve heard the mantra of “Vote blue no matter who!”
pensa@kbin.social 1 year ago
Are you sure the down votes are not because of what you said instead of who you said it about?
When it comes to "Vote blue no matter who" it is because team red has no plan other than get their guy in office. That guy fomented an insurrection, we all saw it happen live. That guy has already promised retribution if elected. There are groups readying plans to fire "non-loyal" federal workers the day that guy takes office and replace them with sycophants. That is literally an existential crisis for our country.
In addition, team red has tried to stop aid to Ukraine, repeatedly. Nobody outside of team red thinks it should be cut. Doing so would only benefit Russia.
Team red believes so much misinformation that they do not know how far out of touch with reality they are.
skulblaka@kbin.social 1 year ago
Yeah it's not about Dems thinking anyone is infallible. Largely they're pretty clear about denouncing their own when it's deserved. It's about being presented a ballot where your options are a polished turd or a fresh smelly chili shart plopped into a bowl and poured on your head. There are no good choices to vote republican, and when presented with this dichotomy I'll vote blue every time until a better option is presented to me. Get better candidates and then we'll talk.
That said I don't disagree with the core of your statement here. The whole institution is rotten to the core. I'm just tired of people projecting hero-worship onto democratic voters. That's a republican thing. We don't really do that. You have to earn the respect of democrats. I voted for Biden because I couldn't stomach another round of Trump and was presented no other option, and I'll do it again if I have to. Doesn't mean I love him. Doesn't mean I even particularly like him, because I don't really, I think he sticks too close to the status quo. But he's by far the lesser of two evils.
The downvotes are probably from people conditioned from experience to be dealing with rabid trumptards that either won't or can't listen to any viewpoint. A majority of arguments that begin with "But Biden-" fall into that category. Dems will listen to and readily agree with legitimate criticism, it just has to be couched within an intelligent argument.