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Comment on How to turn off Gemini in Gmail — and why you should | Proton

gravitas@pie.gravitywell.xyz ⁨5⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

How to turn off Gemini in one step:

1) Stop using google’s services.

If i was actually running my own competing service I’d probably suggest switching to it instead of writing a blog post to help people use my competition, but i guess thats why I don’t work in marketing, this must be some big brained 4-d chess move.

Why does it matter if its googles “AI’ slurping up your emails, or just their massive advertising and tracking network? Do the ads seem less intrusive if they’re just coming from adsense instead of gemini? Are people actually foolish enough to think “disabling” a feature like this actually stops google from constantly scanning every single one of their emails?

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TheTechnician27@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago
but i guess thats why I don’t work in marketing

Yeah, I guess it is, because this article works in Proton’s favor on multiple levels:

Plenty of Proton users have switched over from Gmail and still have their old account and still, even with forwarding, occasionally need to use those old addresses.

People who search for a guide who’ve never or rarely heard of Proton might end up on their site and read a guide that lambasts Google’s usage of AI.

Meanwhile, Proton’s alternative product is being advertised everywhere on the page outside the guide and even is advertised within it.

These guides are going to exist anyway (many, in fact). You’re acting like this is some extremely niche thing users might want to do. Having your own guide but poisoned with your marketing when you’re the underdog is a sound idea.

This gives a benevolent image of “Good Guy Proton” who just wants to keep people’s data private regardless of business – and a “Bad Guy Google” image because it’s apparently so dire that their competition has to do this.

You’re so smarmy about this but just come off as a complete dipshit who gave this two seconds of thought.
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- gravitas@pie.gravitywell.xyz ⁨32⁩ ⁨minutes⁩ ago
  The post is just an ad disguised as a guide and absolutely pointless. You know what else will show people how to disable gemini, googles own ai based search.
  
  ImageSorry if my aversion to advertising comes off as smarmy, im tired of seeing companies go from focusing on providing one good service like email and trying to become the next one service fits all replacement for google. Instead of doing one thing extremely well it becomes a race to do as many things as they can and get people to replace one monolith with their own.
  
  Proton is the most recent to make this shift and its obvious they want to be like google but with “privacy” as a gimmic because its only private until they get a government order telling them to do something to unmask a user or monitor an email.
  
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- victorz@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago
  You had such excellent points all up until the unnecessary ad hominem at the end there. No need for name calling when you’ve already won.
  
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  - TheTechnician27@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago
    Before I address the substance: that’s not what an ad hominem is in the context of an argument. I’d already 100% finished attacking the substance of their argument. An ad hominem would be if I fallaciously appealed to a personal characteristic (real or otherwise) to attack an argument of theirs. “You’re wrong because you’re a dipshit”.
    
    Anyway: man, I dunno. It’s 2026, and I’ve gotten really fucking sick of being asymmetrically bound by etiquette when Brandolini’s law and the Dunning–Kruger effect are being stretched to their limits by insufferable, insolent shitheads who’ve unburdened thenselves of critical thinking and assume having a platform to the entire world makes them qualified to say anything about everything (I can fall into this trap too, but holy shit sometimes).
    
    I was still more polite than they were, still exercised more critical thought than they did, and still addressed the substance, and that’s fine enough by me not to tone police myself.
    
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    victorz@lemmy.world ⁨31⁩ ⁨minutes⁩ ago
    Alright, my bad, good ackshually. 👍 Let’s refer to it as name-calling.
    
    So like, calling someone a dipshit just because you’ve run into so many people that annoy you… I dunno. If it was the same person that annoyed you over and over again, I’d get it, but, this is your first interaction with this person, right? You feel me?
    
    🤷‍♂️ You have the right to call anyone you want a dipshit, of course, I just would like us to have civil discourse here. Everyone benefits from that, I believe. Plus, I think we’re all mostly on the same side regarding this matter. I don’t feel like this is a every polarizing issue here. 😁 Google is the enemy here, let’s not infight.
    
    A person is also much more susceptible and inclined to listen without being called names. 😉
    
    Have a good day today, buddy!
    
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    Cybersteel@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨hour⁩ ago
    It’s fellatiously idiot. So much for being smahter huh duuuuuuuuuh…
    
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  - CosmoNova@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago
    They probably should have given it two seconds of thought before sending it.
    
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    victorz@lemmy.world ⁨47⁩ ⁨minutes⁩ ago
    I mean, it’s just one person’s idea of how they think things will plan out vs another’s. No need for name-calling. 👍
    
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