Comment on Federal judge again strikes down California law banning gun magazines of more than 10 rounds

sudo22@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

• PizzaMan@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  California regulations have done nothing to improve gun violence in their state when compared to less restrictive states like Texas.

  That’s not true.

  www.cdc.gov/nchs/pressroom/sosmap/…/firearm.htm

  Texas has significantly more firearm deaths than California, 9p/100k vs 15p/100k

  Better social safety nets would be far more effective at reducing all forms of violence.

  We should be doing both. The lack of social stability/mobility and health services is a part of the core problem. But it is not the only part.

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  • Blamemeta@lemm.ee ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Gun violence is nothing more than an arbritary metric whose sole purpose is gun control. If they wanted violence, theyd say violence. If they wanted suicides, theyd say suicides.

    But no, they had a conclusion and made up gun violence as a metric.

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    • PizzaMan@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Gun violence is nothing more than an arbritary metric

      How is counting the number of dead arbitrary?

      whose sole purpose is gun control.

      People are needlessly dying. We absolutely need gun control.

      Keeping track of how many have died is a reasonable thing.

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      • Blamemeta@lemm.ee ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        You aren’t counting the number of dead. Only the acts using a specific tool. Its a metric about the tool, not about deaths. And besides, violence counts more than deaths.

        People are needlessly dying. But gun control will not solve that. Focus on why people are killing themselves.

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  • sudo22@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Once again lumping in suicides without clearly stating such, to artificially bolster gun violence. This data includes suicides, which a mag disconnector, chamber indicator, registry, etc won’t help with.

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    • PizzaMan@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Once again lumping in suicides without clearly stating such

      Suicides are a form of gun violence.

      This data includes suicides, which a mag disconnector, chamber indicator, registry, etc won’t help with.

      I never made that argument, so this is a strawman.

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      • sudo22@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        Strawman? My friend these are gun laws in California. The state we’re talking about.

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  • dartanjinn@lemm.ee ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Nope. There is no and should not be a requirement to register to express a right that clearly states it shall not be infringed. Not a chance. Once again, showe a criminal with bad intentions who’s going to register his firearms he bought out of the back of a van. You can’t because they don’t exist. Registration would only make things worse for everyone. Especially a publicly searchable registry where home invaders could add that little step to planning out which homes they’re going to invade.

    Any and every requirement is a barrier to your right to bear arms and is an infringement because people like you think you sit on some high horse when in reality it’s you making life worse for everyone involved. Stop it.

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    • PizzaMan@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      There is no and should not be a requirement to register to express a right that clearly states it shall not be infringed.

      And requiring registration does not infringe, as you are still permitted to own guns.

      showe a criminal with bad intentions who’s going to register his firearms he bought out of the back of a van. Especially a publicly searchable registry where home invaders could add that little step to planning out which homes they’re going to invade.

      These are strawman arguments.

      Stop it.

      Nope. Children are needlessly being killed over this stupid shit that should have been dealt with a century ago.

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      • dartanjinn@lemm.ee ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        Children are being killed over gun rights? Either you’re full of shit or you’re admitting children are being killed by the state for emotional reactions like yours.

        Saying criminals are not going to register their guns is not a strawman, it’s the absolute factual truth which you willingly refuse to accept.

        Do you need to register your right to speak in public? That wouldn’t be an infringement on your right to free speech, would it? Do you need to register your right to not speak to avoid self incrimination? No. Do you need to register your right to protection from unlawful search and seizure? Nope.

        You register for privileges, not rights. I don’t care if you don’t like it. In fact, the courts don’t care if you don’t like it. Just ask Michelle Grisham what people think of your bullshit.

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