I think the more balanced take would be both sides are doing it lmao.
Comment on EU phase-out of high-risk tech targets Huawei, Chinese companies
UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 2 days agoThe argument - that goes back to the Bush “War on Terror” anti-China tech policy - is that any hardware produced outside the NATO sphere could leave domestic users vulnerable to foreign surveillance.
But scratch the surface of this critique and you find something very different. It’s the US technology that’s riddled with backdoors.
According to reports, the hack took advantage of systems built by ISPs like Verizon, AT&T, and Lumen Technologies (formerly CenturyLink) to give law enforcement and intelligence agencies access to the ISPs’ user data. This gave China unprecedented access to data related to U.S. government requests to these major telecommunications companies. It’s still unclear how much communication and internet traffic, and related to whom, Salt Typhoon accessed.
The problem with Chinese technology is that, in many cases, American surveillance companies haven’t penetrated it. A domestic market with Chinese phones and routers and other online gadgets riddles the Five Eyes Panopticon with blind spots.
Jakeroxs@sh.itjust.works 2 days ago
UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 2 days ago
Sure. But to say the American entrenchment around American tech companies is some kind of buffer to Chinese spying clearly hasn’t born out in practice. Americans have pockmarked their tech with security vulnerabilities and Chinese hackers have waltzed right through them. You aren’t safer from the CCP because you’re on American hardware. Just the opposite.
Jakeroxs@sh.itjust.works 2 days ago
Are you truly implying it’d be more secure to buy Chinese tech then US specifically if you’re not wanting to be spied on by the CCP?
That’s quite the take lmao.
UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 2 days ago
Are you truly implying it’d be more secure to buy Chinese tech then US specifically
Only if your primary concern was US-centric surveillance. If you cared about Chinese surveillance, idfk. Big hanging question mark as to whether American native systems are more compromised than Chinese native systems. All I can say for sure is that American systems are confirmed compromised by both US-friendly surveillance and Chinese hacker groups.
That’s quite the take lmao.
It’s very easy to believe “Thing from China bad because China Bad”. But once you look into the actual security schema for these tools and applications, you discover Americans did an excellent job of leaving their hardware exposed to domestic infiltration and a terrible job of securing it against foreign intrusion.
Squizzy@lemmy.world 13 hours ago
Both are, we need to look to Europe for european infrastructure. We have the capability.
Huawei is black box technology, much less cooperation than Siemens and them back in the day. Telco are happy to cut costs and lose knowledge to give it out to China. It needs to be curtailed.