The key point of the article is: “China-based fraudsters”, so ‘bad china’ ™, and the rest of the content was just an excuse for that purpose…
UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 2 days ago
In one case, the graphics card in question was the Gigabyte GeForce RTX 4080 16GB Aero OC, a custom variant of the GeForce RTX 4080 that retailed for around $1,199 at launch. The seller claimed the graphics card was not functional and wanted to offload it for just $143.50 on Xianyu, a popular second-hand marketplace in China.
So this isn’t even an American retailer carrying bad cards? It’s a Chinese second-hand seller peddling admitted non-functional cards for refurbishment. I guess the general advice is good and knowing what to look out for is useful, but it feels niche.
Sims@lemmy.ml 1 day ago
UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 1 day ago
Americans are going to be so fucked when the only companies producing consumer hardware at scale at labeled “Bad China Companies”.
I remember people hating Japan and Korea back in the '80s, before Sony and Samsung killed Magnavox and strangled Phillips.
I guess time is a flat circle
Hadriscus@jlai.lu 1 day ago
This has been uncovered by Brother Zhang… who obviously has, uh… an anti-China agenda… 🙄
UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 18 hours ago
I don’t think Zhang wrote the headline.
Sort of the dig with these stories. Universal problems get spun as Uniquely Bad Country problems and “Chinese engineer gives his fellow enthusiasts good advice” becomes “Don’t trust hardware from Bad Country”
nyan@lemmy.cafe 1 day ago
You only need one piece of (timeless) advice regarding what to look for, really: if it looks too good to be true, it almost certainly is. Caveat emptor.
Seriously, ending up with nothing is always a risk you run when buying something advertised as non-functional in the hope of fixing it or recovering any undamaged parts. The fact that the components on this card weren’t original is almost irrelevant, because the result would have been the same if they were authentic but damaged beyond recovery.
tal@lemmy.today 1 day ago
You only need one piece of (timeless) advice regarding what to look for, really: if it looks too good to be true, it almost certainly is. Caveat emptor.
I mean…normally, yes, but because the situation has been changing so radically in such a short period of time, it probably is possible to get some bonkers deals in various niches, because the market hasn’t stabilized yet.
Like, a month and a half back, in early December, when prices had only been going up like crazy for a little while, I was posting some tiny retailers that still had RAM in stock at pre-price-increase rates that I could find on Google Shopping. IIRC the University of Virginia bookstore was one, as they didn’t check that purchasers were actually students. I warned that they’d probably be cleaned out as soon as scalpers got to them, and that if someone wanted memory, they should probably get it ASAP.
That’s not to disagree with the point that @UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world is making, that this was awfully sketchy as a source, or your point that scavenging components off even a non-scam piece of secondhand non-functional hardware is risky. But in times of rapid change, it’s not impossible to find deals. In fact, it’s various parties doing so that cause prices to stabilize — anyone selling memory for way below market price is going to have scalpers grab it.
nyan@lemmy.cafe 1 day ago
Someone too lazy to update their listings to reflect a rising sticker price (or not wishing to do so for other reasons) isn’t too good to be true. If they’re an established business selling new-in-box items at more than the wholesale price they would have paid (around 50% of the lowest sticker price the good’s ever been sold at isn’t a bad estimate), then you may have found a genuinely good deal.
It’s when someone starts selling at below their cost (unless it’s obviously to clear out old inventory or the like) that things get suspicious.
SharkAttak@kbin.melroy.org 18 hours ago
If they bought a second-hand chinese vga it's totally on them, honestly. It's like complaining the PS5 you bought out of a van behind McD for $100 it's just an empty box.