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Comment on YSK: A real American Civil war will NOT be like Battlefield or COD.

wonderingwanderer@sopuli.xyz ⁨4⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

Sure, if they’re apprehended by ICE, by all means they can choose to resist. But if they’re outnumbered it probably won’t be effective, and will only increase the amount of brutality they’re subjected to.

Plus, if there aren’t any legitimate charges to book them with, fighting back gives agents the charge they need. Otherwise there’s a higher chance of being released.

And if you don’t fight back, then they might shoot you, as is evident by now. But if you do fight back, then they’ll probably shoot you. So what degree of risk are you willing to accept? Cause it’s a sliding scale, not a coin flip.

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mrdown@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

Plus, if there aren’t any legitimate charges to book them with, fighting back gives agents the charge they need. Otherwise there’s a higher chance of being released

You are acting like ice and trump still care about the rule of law

Once they are deported like in salvador, it is the end of them thry will stay in the torture camps

cbc.ca/…/white-house-bukele-visit-trump-1.7509466

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- wonderingwanderer@sopuli.xyz ⁨4⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
  It’s not about whether trump or ice care about the rule of law, it’s about whether the courts are capable or willing to intercede.
  
  They’re not going to be able to help if you punch an agent in the face, much as he might have deserved it.
  
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  - mrdown@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
    The court is already useless
    
    U.S. President Donald Trump’s top advisers and Nayib Bukele, the president of El Salvador, said Monday that they have no basis for the small Central American nation to return a Maryland man who was wrongly deported there last month. Bukele called the idea “preposterous” even though the U.S. Supreme Court has called on the administration to “facilitate” the return of Kilmar Abrego Garcia.
    
    Fortunatly for him the victim was returned at the end but there are ton of peoole who doesn’t have that chance and stuck in torture camps
    
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    wonderingwanderer@sopuli.xyz ⁨4⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
    I’m aware that the situation is bad. I haven’t argued otherwise.
    
    The argument in question is about methodologies, and for now I’m saying a violent resistance would be counterproductive.
    
    I’m not claiming to know a viable alternative. But doing nothing is better than making things worse.
    
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