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niisyth@lemmy.ca ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

I’ve been running debian as my main and my home-server OS for a couple years now. And I’m really happy for it.

But it hasn’t been smooth sailing. I’m even on fully AMD systems. There’s a bunch of stuff, biometrics and otherwise, that just doesn’t work without random workarounds or even not at all.

And this elitist approach and tone is what turns a lot of folks away from even trying linux. Also, sure CLI might be great for a lot of devs, but regular users do need a GUI. And that is not fully there yet.

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Warl0k3@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
“Almost everything on Linux is easier to set up than on windows” has me rolling. This shit is exactly why people dismiss Linux as an option - linux enthusiasts refuse to accept the flaws in the OS, and that means those flaws never get addressed. God, or they’ve never had to deal with a driver incompatibility before, maybe they’re just leading a charmed life…

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- raspberriesareyummy@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
  It appears you have not installed any Windows from scratch in a long time, or tried to harden it, or solve a driver problem there. That’s why you get confused. I was not saying Linux is always easy, I was saying it has overtaken Windows in almost every aspect, also because on Windows things have become more complex.
  
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raspberriesareyummy@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

And this elitist approach and tone is what turns a lot of folks away from even trying linux. Also, sure CLI might be great for a lot of devs, but regular users do need a GUI. And that is not fully there yet.

Regular users who “need a GUI” would be completely unable to install Windows at all, because the setup including activation (or workarounds) is way too complex for them. They might be able to install Linux from scratch though, because various distributions have good GUI installers and/or live images.

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- niisyth@lemmy.ca ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
  The average user doesn’t install windows though. They buy the pc/laptop with Windows on it already, and use it till it’s in the ground.
  
  And I cannot just install ubuntu/mint on a laptop for someone and walk away either, cause if/when anything breaks, the fix isn’t approachable. And trying to tell someone to use the CLI when they’re not tech savvy is not user friendly.
  
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  - raspberriesareyummy@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
    
    The average user doesn’t install windows though. They buy the pc/laptop with Windows on it already, and use it till it’s in the ground.
    
    Thanks for confirming my point. Windows isn’t easier to operate, it just comes preinstalled.
    
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