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balsoft@lemmy.ml 2 days agoBsky is actually quite centralized. Bluesky the company owns the only full-network indexer (I think they call it a “relay” or something), which collects posts from all other servers and allows those posts to be rendered by various apps (e.g. bsky.app, but all other frontends use the same indexer). They could just ban them at indexer level.
But even that is moot, because they are letting them host their account on a server Bluesky the company owns, bsky.social.
irelephant@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 day ago
There’s another relay: atproto.africa .
Relays don’t index posts, they collect them from different servers, and provide a “firehouse” of events.
You can crawl pdses directly, akin to the fediverse. AppViewLite does this (and is lightweight enough to run on a phone).
You don’t need a relay or appview with reddwarf.app .
The fediverse also has relays.
balsoft@lemmy.ml 1 day ago
Good to know there’s a second full-network relay (assuming this is what it is). Last time I checked all third-party relays only indexed some sections of the network.
Conceptually relays are the indexers of the network, you can view individual PDSes without them, but you won’t get cross-PDS discovery; this is because PDSes don’t actually federate with each other.
This means that in practice, relays define what it means to be “on bluesky”. If you are banned on all relays, your PDS becomes just a weird standalone microblog.
And in any case this is all a bit academic, bluesky are hosting nazis on their own PDS, bsky.social.