I wonder if that is acutally better though
Comment on Bluesky just verified ICE
geneva_convenience@lemmy.ml 1 day agoIf ICE tried to verify their account on Lemmy it would be permabanned instantly
LordXDnl@literature.cafe 1 day ago
balsoft@lemmy.ml 1 day ago
It is a lot better. If you let Nazis join your platform, your platform is now a Nazi bar. Ban them, don’t let them spread their propaganda.
iturnedintoanewt@lemmy.world 1 day ago
They still can’t post shit against the general instance rules. So they’d have to be very careful of get the nuisance of getting their posts constantly removed, and eventually banned. No need to make individual distinctions when the general rules already work.
balsoft@lemmy.ml 1 day ago
Nazis are quite good at bending or evading rules to further their agenda. They will push the boundaries of what’s acceptable by using creative allegories or dogwhistles. Moderators are supposed to moderate assuming goodwill from participants, this should not be the case here because ICE is not operating in good faith. Me thinks a job ad to join the modern Gestapo (which is already in ICE’s profile) should be grounds for a ban.
Shimitar@downonthestreet.eu 1 day ago
I don’t ban anyone or any instance in my own instance, so no they cannot be “parammanned” from Lemmy. That’s not how it works and why i like Lemmy and its principles.
geneva_convenience@lemmy.ml 1 day ago
Find out how long your Lemmy instance stays federated with the rest of the big instances once you start hosting Nazis
Shimitar@downonthestreet.eu 1 day ago
You don’t get it: I am and will remain the only user of my instance…
Do you even now how Lemmy works? Did I say I was going to let ICE people create users on my instance? I only said I don’t defederate any instance.
geneva_convenience@lemmy.ml 2 hours ago
If you turned off registration then you are not allowing ICE on your platform so problem solved?
cerebralhawks@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 day ago
Might depend what instance. They wouldn’t try to verify on db0 because yes, they would be banned instantly with prejudice. They would probably just hop on Lemmy.world or something.
Furthermore, it would be better if the US Government just put up their own instance. Let each instance decide whether or not to federate with them, and let users decide if they want to follow them or not.
hanrahan@slrpnk.net 1 day ago
Probbly not at the mgtow Lemmy instance.
photonic_sorcerer@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 day ago
The nature of FOSS allows anyone to use free software like Lemmy and Mastodon. ICE could therefore join by making their own instance or joining a friendly one but it’d be defederated by most others.
The great thing about fediverse is that everyone gets a voice and we can choose who to listen to.
balsoft@lemmy.ml 1 day ago
Truth Social is running Mastodon under the hood. But nobody considers it a part of the fediverse, because even if it had federation turned on it would instantly be defederated by 99% of instances.
I’m sure there are nazi lemmy instances out there, but they are all defederated from the lemmyverse. This is the correct approach, decentralized platforms are somehow doing a better job at this then the de-facto centralized bsky.
hanrahan@slrpnk.net 1 day ago
As is GAB