Comment on A generation taught not to think: AI in the classroom

JeeBaiChow@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

• killabeezio@lemmy.world ⁨15⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  Recently had to lay someone off because they just weren’t producing the work that needed to be done. Even the simplest of tasks.

  I would be like we need to remove/delete these things. That’s it. It took some time because you had to just do some comparison and research, but it was a super difficult task for them.

  I would then give them something more technical, like write this script and it was mostly ok, but much better work than the simple tasks I would give.

  Then I would get AI slop and I would ask WTF are you thinking here. Why are you doing this? They couldn’t give a good answer because they didn’t actually do the work. They would just have LLMs do all their work for them and if it requires them to do any sort of thinking, they would fail miserably.

  Even in simple PR reviews, I would leave at least 10 comments just going back and forth. Got to the point where it was just easier if I would have done it myself. I tried to mentor them and guide them along, but it just wasn’t getting through to them.

  I don’t mind the use of LLMs, but use it as a tool, not a crutch. You should be able to produce the thing you are giving the llm to produce for you.

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  • JeeBaiChow@lemmy.world ⁨15⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Same. My guy couldnt authenticate a user against a password hash, even after i gave him the source code. Its like copying homework - you just shoot yourself in the foot for later.

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• tidderuuf@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

  Meanwhile Junior Devs: “Why will no one hire me?!?!”

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  • Jankatarch@lemmy.world ⁨20⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    There is a funny two-way filtering going on here.

    Job applications are auto-rejected unless they go over how “AI will reshape the future and I am so excited” on at least linkedin.

    Then engineers that do the interviews want people interested in learning about computers through years of hard work and experience?

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    • JeeBaiChow@lemmy.world ⁨15⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      Problem is, people are choosing careers based on how much it will pay them, instead of things they want to do/ are passionate about. Its rare nowadays to have candidates who also have hobby work/ side projects related to the work. At least by my reckoning.

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      • Bronzebeard@lemmy.zip ⁨14⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        Problem is most jobs don’t pay enough anymore. So people don’t have the luxury of picking what they’re passionate about, they have bills to pay. Minimum wage hasn’t raised in 16 years. It wasn’t enough 16 years ago. It’s now buys only 60% of what it did back then.

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  • JeeBaiChow@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    Ths seniors can tell. And even if you make it into the job, itll be pretty obvious the first couple of days.

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    • kescusay@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

      I interview juniors regularly. I can’t wait until the first time I interview a “vibe coder” who thinks they’re a developer, but can’t even tell me what a race condition is or the difference between synchronous and asynchronous execution.

      That’s going to be a red letter day, lemme tell ya.

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      • JeeBaiChow@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        I get that they can download widgets to accelerate the results, but they need to learn how the things work. I just code what i need by hand instead. Net result is quick up front results, but heaven forbid maintenance or customization.

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      • itsathursday@lemmy.world ⁨23⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        “Would you say I have a decorator on this function?”

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