Comment on There are only like 3,000 billionaires and they're not physically imposing people.

gustofwind@lemmy.world ⁨18⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

• GreenBeanMachine@lemmy.world ⁨18⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  We still outnumbered them, vastly. Let’s say each one employs 100 body guards. That’s still 303000 against 5.5 billion (adult population).

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  • gustofwind@lemmy.world ⁨17⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    And?

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    • ThunderWhiskers@lemmy.world ⁨17⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      Organize, is the point they are driving at. We the people have the numbers to be literally unstoppable, the trick is getting all those people moving in the right direction.

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      • ameancow@lemmy.world ⁨10⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        the trick is getting all those people moving in the right direction.

        Turns out only a handful of things in all of history have pushed people out of social boundaries and into a realm of discomfort and possible consequence:

        1. Fear and hate. Always number one here, if you get enough people scared together, they can be driven anywhere. Most people don’t think, they feel. Feelings drive the motions and actions.

        2. A greater discomfort than breaking social norms and potentially going to jail- IE: starvation, homelessness, genocide, etc.

        3. Extremely charismatic people who capture enough political capital that they’re given the opportunity to gather large numbers of people for a cause. These are usually politicians who are well trained in how to influence people, and typically use item #1 to enforce their goals.

        Right now we don’t have any of these things. We also don’t have political capital or organized power such as uniting behind nationalism or guns to demonstrate our ability to actually disrupt the system. This makes us a target by the state, and the state protects capital right here, right now.

        We can still fix this through political action and organization, and if we do, we can actually create systems that protect the world from more lich-kings rising up and swallowing all of our work and money. It just takes more social involvement than we’re doing now… and since just that seems too much for most progressive-minded people, I don’t have a lot of hope that we’re going to do any of the other, more forceful things that require a LOT more cohesion.

        Reality sucks. I know. But we can influence it.

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      • gustofwind@lemmy.world ⁨17⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        well duh but youre just making my point in a nicer fashion which is those numbers don’t do anything if they aren’t moving in the right direction

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    • GreenBeanMachine@lemmy.world ⁨17⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      youtu.be/VLbWnJGlyMU

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• umbrella@lemmy.ml ⁨14⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  only if we are alone.

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