Gonna be awful hard to organize resistance when the administration decides to cut everyone off from all the centralized means of doing so. The time to set up decentralized mesh networks is now.
Comment on Self-hosting in 2025 isn't about privacy anymore - it's about building resistance infrastructure
talkingpumpkin@lemmy.world 3 days ago
TLDR: Protesting or resisting privately inside your house does not lead to social change and is not the most rational way of protecting yourself if you feel threatened by your government.
Self-hosting is not “resistance”: at most, it’s prepping for nerds, with computers instead of guns.
Self-hosting is not even a rational/efficient way of making a statement. If that’s what you want, it’s far more efficient to follow the established tradition of declaring you are moving to Canada and not following up with actual actions.
Don’t get me wrong: I can relate to the nerdy way to cope with the ugliness around us (I say “us”, but thankfully I don’t live in the US), but the way I see it your society that needs change and self hosting won’t help in that.
Frankly, the shit you US people are putting up with is unreal.
It has always been (US police forces kill far more people than the overall homicide rate in Europe) and it’s just getting worse.
If you feel threatened you can essentially respond by fighting, fleeing, or cowering.
If you wanna FIGHT (this is what “resistance” is about), try to use whatever power you have and apply your energies to bring actual change. If you don’t feel comfortable acting outdoors, this could include lending your nerd skills to protesters or resistance groups. (Heck, even being a keyboard warrior is more useful to changing society than being a hobbyist sysadmin).
If you wanna FLEE, just leave the country. Honestly, there are better places to live than the US.
If you wanna COWER, then be a prepper or a self-hoster or whatever, but be aware that, while misrepresenting your reaction as “resistance” may make you feel more heroic than you are, spreading the misrepresentation can also lead others to cowering instead of fighting. Is that what you want?
lightnsfw@reddthat.com 3 days ago
Cruel@programming.dev 3 days ago
US police forces kill far more people than the overall homicide rate in Europe
How are you calculating this? Doesn’t seem right.
2024 was the worst year with 1,365 police killings in the US. That’s around 4 people for every million. Per capita this is a rate 8x that of France which I believe has the most police killings in Europe.
General European homicide rates vary on countries from 5 (Swiss) to 42 (Latvian) per million. It’s higher than the rate of police killings in the US.
However, the general homicide rate in the US is like 6x the European rate.
I only briefly checked the numbers, I hope I didn’t get anything wrong.
talkingpumpkin@lemmy.world 3 days ago
IDK where I’ve read that… should have double checked before posting, my bad.
Quick fact checking:
US police kills some 1,281 people last year (wikipedia).
1,281/340,110,988*100,000gives around 0.38 police killings/100,000 people, which is below homicide rate in EU.I couldn’t (be bothered to) find out what the overall European homicide rate actually is (it also depends on what you count as “Europe”), but Germany is at around 0.8, France at 1.8, Italy at 0.57, Spain at 0.9 and Poland at 0.8 (these are the five most populous countries). So… let’s guesstimate it at around 1? (numbers are from this random source).
So US policemen are only 38% as deadly as European criminals
SleepyPie@lemmy.world 3 days ago
Preparation is part of fighting.
Pretty sure the Iranian protesters would benefit from private infra now that the internet is shut down.
Getting graphite OS phones can let you do all sorts of neat things like duress pins etc.
The average person is forming their activist plans on WhatsApp and Discord, and that’s going to be a problem. I remember all those kids in Hong Kong getting scooped up because the government was reading their texts and hacking their phones.
Don’t downplay what you can contribute.
FauxLiving@lemmy.world 3 days ago
This brand of argument is basically ‘If you can’t do everything perfectly, then it is pointless to do anything especially the thing that you’re suggesting.’
You see this person in every thread on every topic where people discuss things that they can contribute their expertise to. Their message is ‘it is hopeless, your plan won’t work, give up what you’re doing, you don’t stand a chance’.
Honestly, and forgive the langue, but fuck those people. You know what your strengths are and what you’re capable of, not some faceless bot who is, by its own admissions, not in the US.
If you don’t want to participate in the tech landscape as it exists today, there is absolutely nothing wrong about avoiding it entirely and building something else. Companies will not be so complacent about their position in the market if they know there’s a completely Free alternative that does everything that they charge a subscription for.
The people who are doing self-hosting today are exactly like the early adopters of the smartphone or any other technology. There’s always people trying new things and sometimes they succeed.
People who are using privacy focused approaches to personal technology, like self-hosting, are beta testing the ability to use cheap, mass produced hardware and open source software to build a product ecosystem that meets their needs. That progress is enjoyed by anybody in the future who decides they also want to leave the walled gardens of Tech Giantopia.
brito@lemmy.zip 2 days ago
Please don’t recommend android distributions with a shady funding model and that force users to buy expensive compromised Google hardware.
There are good options like LineageOS and e/OS/ that run on a huge variety of android devices without suspicious limitations.