Comment on Self-hosting in 2025 isn't about privacy anymore - it's about building resistance infrastructure

Bonifratz@piefed.zip ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

• EncryptKeeper@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

  It is a skill much like maintaining a car yourself, or your own lawn/garden.

  It’s pretty easy to get started, and there are certain ways of doing things that keep it pretty simple forever, at the cost of some flexibility.

  But no matter how you do it, there will be a non-zero amount of work involved indefinitely. Just like you need your cars oil changed, your garden mulched and weeded, or your server patched and cleaned up once in awhile.

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  • batman0730@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    I use these analogies too, it’s like becoming a digital gardener.

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• h333d@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

  I feel this deeply. I used to volunteer at a library teaching “Cyber Seniors” digital literacy, and the biggest hurdle was always the fear of “breaking” something. The truth is, the big tech companies want you to think it’s too hard so you’ll keep paying them with your data.

  You don’t need to be a sysadmin to start. It’s not about days of fixing errors; it’s about taking one small win at a time; like setting up a password manager first. If you can follow a recipe, you can build a node. We’re working on better, no-jargon guides to make sure the “thousand little errors” don’t stand in your way. You don’t have to be an expert to be part of the resistance.

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  • furby@infosec.pub ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    “one small win at a time” 100%

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  • jtzl@lemmy.zip ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    I agree with you, but something jumped out at me while reading this thread. To a degree, the fear of “breaking something” is completely legitimate, but it’s based on not getting quick feedback from systems. For instance, if you are walking in a direction that you think is east, but the sun is setting ahead of you, you know you’re headed in the wrong direction. Computers often don’t provide such useful feedback, often leading users to “break things.”

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• phant@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

  I’m right there with ya. I’m thinking it might be a case of picking easy pieces (projects) of the puzzle to start with and then building from there. Like I’m considering setting a pi-hole soon - seems like an easier networking project. But yeah, I’m not really sure whats the best order of eaiest to hardest in terms on self hosting etc.

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  • meltedcheese@c.im ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    @phant Pi-hole is super easy to set up and easy to build on. It’s been very robust for me and also eye-opening due to the excellent UI. About 5% of the network traffic in my house is now blocked. Thousands of DNS requests per day. Most of that is trackers. Apps and “smart” devices are very determined to phone home so you’ll have to block many of these domains manually as they show up. Be forewarned, some apps and web sites will simply stop working if you block their tracking and other info gathering on your network. Luckily, there is good #FOSS to substitute.

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• irmadlad@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

  Maybe I’m mistaken, maybe it’s all really easy even for noobs

  I’ll be the first to admit, shit is complicated, especially networking, but it’s not insurmountable. Do you already have a server deployed? How familiar are you with Linux?

  See what you think: https://linuxupskillchallenge.org/

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  • Bonifratz@piefed.zip ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    Do you already have a server deployed? How familiar are you with Linux?

    No server. I just installed Linux a few months ago as dual boot after being a lifelong Windows user (since 3.1 lol). Currently using both OS but will move fully to Linux once I have some projects finished. Self-hosting might become a future project after that and if yes, I’ll come back to this community and this thread!

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    • irmadlad@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

      I just installed Linux a few months ago as dual boot after being a lifelong Windows user (since 3.1 lol).

      Well then, you are on your way.

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• Deckname@olio.cafe ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

  Hi! I am also slowly getting the hang of it (just set up my first NAS with truenas last weekend) but there are dozens of youtube channels focused on it. I like Serversathome and the accompanying Wiki helped me a lot. This mainly focuses on an arr stack but there is also wiki pages for immich and nextcloud. Right now I’m using cloudflare tunnels to access services (i know feeding the machine etc.). If anyone knows an alternative to cloudflare tunnels (without putting everything into the same tailscale network) I would be happy to hear about it!

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• krashmo@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

  I’m not an expert but I have a decent set up going. If you think it would be helpful shoot me a DM and I’ll find a way to show you what I’ve got set up and give any tips I can. It sounds like I started in a similar position to you and I’d be happy to share what I’ve learned so far.

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  • Bonifratz@piefed.zip ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    Thanks a lot for the offer. This might become a project of mine in the future but not before the end of this year. I might get back to you then. :)

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• silentjohn@lemmy.ml ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

  Man, I’m pretty techy. I work in tech. I’ve learned programming, etc, I use Debian. but selfhosting seems so daunting, not to mention inconvenient. I need to get into it though 😓

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  • 7U5K3N@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨21⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    It’s not overly.

    I used “perfect media server 2017” the first time I set up a mass storage server for Plex.

    perfectmediaserver.com

    My setup is a lot different now… but dude laid out some step by step instructions. And apparently has continued to evolve his setup over time

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    • silentjohn@lemmy.ml ⁨8⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      Just a brief skim of this and I’m already so lost lol. Thanks for the link though, I’ll have a more detailed read through later.

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      • 7U5K3N@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨7⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        You’re welcome!

        Good luck in your journey!

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• wwberrutti@ohai.social ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

  @Bonifratz @h333d When I begun this self-hosting journey, I hosted Pi-Hole on a docker container on my PC (was Manjaro KDE that time I think). Then, I learnt how to set up AdGuardHome on a VM (on both Manjaro and Arch iirc), using virt-manager and KVM. Now, I'm using an old laptop to host Proxmox and some services like AdGuardHome, Prometheus, Grafana, Uptime Kuma, and a Debian-made game server customized by myself. I had help of a colleague to begin the Proxmox journey.

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  • wwberrutti@ohai.social ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    @Bonifratz @h333d It isn't easy, but it's so worth the effort, and I just begun the Proxmox journey and I have plenty of things to learn!

    Since this is a complex subject, you need to take your time and don't hurry the learning process. Begin with baby steps, and hosting services restricted to a LAN, just to be safe. When you are comfortable (after some weeks or months), think about sharing a service to the public, if possible and what you have to do to properly secure your devices and network!

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• hash@slrpnk.net ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

  Digital solidarity will be essential as we move forward. We will need both social solutions which facilitate community technical support and engineered solutions which make that support more effective. I like to imagine systems of distributed sever management where we build upon the computational capacity of those around us and the human capacity of those that care for them. I want to rely on people I love instead of opaque tech firms that only care about money. Compute power must not defeat humanity.

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