Comment on Microsoft Office has been renamed to “Microsoft 365 Copilot app”
Dyskolos@lemmy.zip 4 days agoI didn’t mean to start a what’s-best-for-companies (as i really don’t care, i stopped working 30yrs ago and am doing server-stuff just for fun at home mostly), but just said that their server-OSs are tremendously better than their office-shit and their desktop-OSs. Since NT they surely matured a lot, also i’d argue that with 2019+ i fail to see the appeal anymore. Having said that, of my 15+ machines here, there are only 2 windows left and that is just for that decades-old-domain plus some essentials.
Aceticon@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 days ago
I totally agreed with that: their Server OS is superior to their Desktop OS.
I just think it’s mainly because their Desktop OS has fast enshittified after Windows 7 rather than because Windows server is actually all that great as a server OS.
In fact, thinking about it, one might even say that Windows Server is better than the Desktop version because it’s to a very great extent a Desktop OS (in terms of having things like having an a complex UI layer and set of support applications integrated) the very thing which is actually a large part of the reason why its an inferior server OS for typical server-side scenarios because there what you most value is maximum computing resources made available to the server applications (which tend to be heavy users of computing, memory, networking or a combination of those) and an integrated UI layer actually uses more of those just for the OS (both directly for its own work and indirectly from the added complexity of a bulkier OS resulting in less streamlined execution paths) making fewer resources available for the same hardware.
If you look at the Linux distros and distro variants for server deployment they are actually vastly inferior to the Windows OS Desktop - for starters because they’re command-line only, though nowadays there’s often web-based management interfaces which are still a much lighter option than a directly integrated UI layer - exactly because absent an intergrated UI layer, not adding the UI support on top via something like XWindows or Wyland on a server Linux distro actually makes them better for server tasks.
Dyskolos@lemmy.zip 4 days ago
But you know the UI is optional in the recent server versions? Can all be done in console, for an added layer of security and less overhead. Way too late they included that, but still…
Aceticon@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 days ago
I did not know that.
Took them two decades but better late than never!
Dyskolos@lemmy.zip 4 days ago
lol yes, but close. Since server 2008/2008R2 there is the “core”-option. Since 2016 even a nano-core, with just basic container-options and one cannot even login locally. Plus a ton of corpo-stuff that is already there, and “easily” to setup (the gui seems so simple, but it’s still just a do-it-quick-stuff in the front, most of the actual work is scripted/console anyway). I must admit I do have all MS-titles and -certificates and it often is as trivial as it seems. But still more trivial than doing the exact same thing in linux.
Despite not ever have cared for MS-licenses (except for back then, when i still ran the buisiness), i still choose linux most of the time as it’s still much less overhead for simple tasks than even the lightest of core-installations.