Source 1 simulates that closing the toilet lid very much concentrates the droplets near the user instead of a wider area, so you either spray yourself or more of the toilet area.
Sources 2 investigates how the bacteria behave in vitro, without any evidence of any person actually getting infected in the process.
I believe you’re missing my point. I’m not claiming that it’s impossible to get sick if you hold your head over the toilet while someone else is flushing their diarrhea.
Just that putting the lid down is not some kind of magical thing that will make your bathroom into a cleanroom. And I highly doubt that any droplets you could even get in contact with from visiting the toilet after a healthy person should be your top worry. Do you also hold your breath after you flush?
squaresinger@lemmy.world 1 week ago
A nice strawman argument you have there. A shame that nobody made that argument. You would have totally owned that person if anyone did.
Because that’s how studies work. You measure one thing: Will shit make it into the air and can you measure that bacteria from shit will reach air that the user can breathe.
If they get sick from that is an entirely different measurement that depends on a ton of other things.
The point of the lid is to reduce the amount of stuff in the air, not to make your toilet into a clean room. Because any sane person knows a 12x reduction is a huge benefit and that perfect clenliness is neither achievable nor the point.