Comment on What common American habits do people find quietly annoying?

• FaceDeer@fedia.io ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

  We're not talking to you in this thread, we're talking about you. You don't need to jump in with "but that's not annoying!" After people answer the question OP posed, that's not useful.

  This is ironically another annoying behaviour.

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  • morphballganon@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    Oh, pardon me, I forgot you’re allowed to find someone seeking a path forward in life as dreadfully inconvenient, because where you were born grants you superiority, m’lord

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    • FaceDeer@fedia.io ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

      Yes, we see it, you can stop demonstrating the annoying behaviour now.

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  • A_norny_mousse@feddit.org ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    This is ironically another annoying behaviour.

    Unable to resist a challenge. But it’s usually the doubling- and tripling down that makes it really funny.

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• Jesus_666@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

  It typically doesn’t. Most countries don’t care about where your ancestors came from. Being fluent in the local language and culture will generally give you a leg up if you already qualify for immigration so I hope your family kept those alive (and not Americanized versions like Irish-Americans wearing green on St. Patrick’s Day). But your ancestry is usually completely irrelevant.

  Those genetic test results absolutely don’t mean anything. If you’re culturally American with an American passport, you’re American and that’s it.

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  • Fondots@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    Kind of funny you specifically call out Irish-Americans, because Ireland does actually have some options for citizenship-by-descent. It’s not quite as simple as anyone with Irish ancestry can become a citizen, but it is a thing.

    If you have a grandparent who was born in Ireland you’re eligible

    Or if your parent was an Irish citizen at the time of your birth

    So hypothetically if you have a great grandparent born in Ireland, your parent could apply for Irish citizenship, even though their parents (your grandparents) weren’t citizens and had never set foot in Ireland

    And if they did that before you were born you would also be eligible

    And so on down the line to your children, and their children, etc. if everyone keeps on top of it.

    There’s actually a decent handful of countries with some sort of citizenship-by-descent, not a majority by a longshot, and of course every country that does offer it has different requirements and restrictions, but for some people it can potentially be a viable pathway to another citizenship.

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    • 14th_cylon@lemmy.zip ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

      i am not going to verify what you said, but regardless of if it is true, if your grandparents have the citizenship, you probably don’t need dna test to find that out…

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      • Fondots@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

        It’s absolutely an edge case, but there are still a lot of wonky family situations out there, people who are estranged from their family for any number of reasons, adoption, people raised by their grandparents under the impression that they were their parents to hide the fact that their sister is really their mom and they were hiding a teen pregnancy, your mom cheated and your dad isn’t actually your father, etc.

        And sometimes that all stays under wraps until someone in the family takes a DNA test.

        I have a friend with a big family who just recently discovered that most of her aunts and uncles are actually her grandfather’s biological children. She and her siblings haven’t done a test themselves and her father’s dead so the jury is still out on whether she’s blood related to him or not.

        But if she’s not, and she finds out who her actual biological grandfather is, it’s not impossible that that may open up a new pathway to citizenship through him.

        And laws change, as a hypothetical, let’s say Poland starts getting antsy (well, antsyer) about Russia doing Russia stuff and really wants more people to feed the war machine in case of WWII breaking out, they already have a citizenship by descent option but the proper documentation to qualify can be tricky, but if they decide they really want to increase immigration I don’t think it would be out of the question for them to open up a pathway for someone who can show a DNA test with X% polish ancestry. In that hypothetical it might be kind of an out-of-the-frying-pan-into-the-fire situation, but maybe it would still be preferable to the situation in someone’s home country.

        It’s just one more tool in the box that can open up new avenues for people to explore. It may not pan out for everyone or even most people who look into it, but in some small handful of cases it may save their lives.

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• phr@discuss.tchncs.de ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

  by all means do.

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  • morphballganon@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    Why wouldn’t we give our family members a tip on how they can also get out, on a platform where they would see it?

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    • phr@discuss.tchncs.de ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

      did anyone ever get a passport because some lab result said they were 10% “genetically slovakian”?

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      • morphballganon@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

        I don’t know about Slovakian, but such places exist, yes.

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    • 14th_cylon@lemmy.zip ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

      great, another american immigrant. we need to build a wall and make america pay for it.

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      • morphballganon@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

        Great attitude you got there

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• Nalivai@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

  There is only one country that gives a flying shit about where your great-grandma allegedly came from, and that’s Israel. For every other country you’re not figuring out any options, you’re cosplaying.

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  • AbsolutelyClawless@piefed.social ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    It’s not quite the same, but I know someone who acquired Italian citizenship because their grandparents were Italian/had Italian citizenship. They don’t even speak Italian.

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    • Spitefire@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

      Italy has recently changed their requirements and now language proficiency and residency are required. But yes, up until very recently heritage was mostly enough.

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    • Honytawk@feddit.nl ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

      They did not get citizenship because of their grandparents.

      They got a foot in the door because they knew someone living in Italy (if that even is the cast), and then went through everything a normal migrant needs to go through.

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      • AbsolutelyClawless@piefed.social ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

        What are you even talking about? They both acquired it over Jure Sanguinis, both of them barely understand any Italian. They have dual Italian citizenship.

        Nobody said anything about needing ancestors to live somewhere else.

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  • drev@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    This is not true. I personally acquired citizenship of Lithuania for example, solely because my grandmother was born there and left during Soviet occupation (as many did). I speak no Lithuanian, have no other connection to the country, and have never even been there.

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    • AbsolutelyClawless@piefed.social ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

      ITT: confidently incorrect people who can’t take 5 seconds to do an internet search, lol.

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• A_norny_mousse@feddit.org ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

  Ah Cheesus that’s funny. I hope you weren’t serious. As if “having Italian genes” makes you eligible for a residence permit.

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  • morphballganon@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    Not Italy perhaps, but there are such places.

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  • Spitefire@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    Italian ancestry can qualify you for citizenship, that’s not the best example.

    Source: me, American of Italian ancestry working to get dual citizenship

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• Honytawk@feddit.nl ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

  You don’t get citizenship just because you had ancestors there once.

  Otherwise everyone is an African citizen.

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  • AngryCommieKender@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    Germany will give you citizenship for having had a single Great Great Grandfather from Bavaria. Ask me how I know…

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  • morphballganon@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    There are such places.

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