Comment on China calls for Maduro’s immediate release, accuses US of breaching international law

• UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

  The US allied with the USSR to fight the Nazis.

  FDR allied with Stalin to fight the Nazis. As soon as Franky kicked it, his VP Truman pivoted into Cold War mode.

  Even before then, Red Scare politics in the US was rampant. Prescott Bush, Joe Kennedy, Henry Ford, The Dulles Brothers, Rockerfeller Jr, J. Edgar Hoover and a constellation of anti-communist interests agitated against the alliance with the Soviets from day one of the War.

  The real alliance was between the US and UK, with Russia functioning as cannon fodder to pull German troops off the Western Front. Nobody in the West believed Russia could survive a full mechanized invasion, much less repel the Germans and race Eisenhower to Berlin.

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  • NewSocialWhoDis@lemmy.zip ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    I thought the premise was Europe making an alliance with China against the US…? It wouldn’t matter what Americans could stomach at that point.

    As an American, I think a de facto alliance with China is going to be forced upon us anyway (I really think Trump will let them take Taiwan, it just remains to be seen what he’ll ask for), and it will go down easier than attacking a European nation will (Greenland).

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  • humanspiral@lemmy.ca ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    Nobody in the West believed Russia could survive a full mechanized invasion, much less repel the Germans and race Eisenhower to Berlin.

    AFAIU, the US got involved in Europe specifically to race USSR to Berlin. ie. after USSR was moving forward.

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    • AngryCommieKender@lemmy.world ⁨14⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      Then you don’t know history. Not surprised that a clanker doesn’t know shit.

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      • humanspiral@lemmy.ca ⁨14⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        quora.com/How-far-had-the-Soviet-army-advanced-wh…

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  • cheesybuddha@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    Right, kind of an enemy of my enemy sort of thing. I could definitely see the same thing happening with China in some hypothetical scenarios

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    • UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

      Americans wouldn’t stomach it.

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      • cheesybuddha@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

        China wouldn’t be on the side of the US. They would be backing the opposition

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