Comment on China calls for Maduro’s immediate release, accuses US of breaching international law

• GregorGizeh@lemmy.zip ⁨6⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

  You see, it is possible to resent both countries’ ambitions on other nations and global hegemony. You dont have to whatabout when someone points out that China is no saint either.

  What are you even hoping to achieve here? Make the reader say “oh well, guess what China does is okay then”?

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  • grte@lemmy.ca ⁨6⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    My point is the USA is a warmonger who needs to be treated as such.

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    • GregorGizeh@lemmy.zip ⁨6⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

      Because they have already been ratioed and corrected in their perspective by other commenters.

      I do of course entirely agree with you that the united states under current leadership are wildly untrustworthy and a potential danger to anyone who has something Trump wants. Scared for Denmark.

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    • huppakee@piefed.social ⁨6⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

      My point is the USA is a warmonger who needs to be treated as such.

      Not only your point, but also China’s point. I think it is fair to talk about the wrongs of China when they point the wrongs of the US. On the other hand, since I am not from either country i feel they can endlessly point at each other because it might fuel the desire to be better. And both China and the US really need to do better when it comes to abiding to international humanitarian law.

      This is a perfect example of the pot accusing the kettle, that saying is exactly meant for ‘whataboutism in the opposite direction’.

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      • grte@lemmy.ca ⁨6⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

        I’m not the one who complained about whataboutism. I pointed out that it’s hypocritical to whine about me doing it if you’re not also going to whine about the original commenter doing it. Which is fine, it’s legal to be a hypocrite. One should own it, though.

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  • Maeve@kbin.earth ⁨6⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    https://www.qiaocollective.com/education/xinjiang

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  • Socialism_Everyday@reddthat.com ⁨5⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    It is certainly possible to resent both, it is however pathetic to resent both equally, when one is 100 times worse than the other.

    “This man just murdered my mother, but fuck the guy who’s calling him out, he slapped me once 30 years ago”

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    • GregorGizeh@lemmy.zip ⁨5⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

      While i would agree that at the immediate present the u.s appear to be the more belligerent and unpredictable actor i believe that there is not a lot of room for nuance in terms of aggression towards other sovereign countries. They are all unacceptable to me. The US should stay the hell out of Venezuela, Russia out of Ukraine and China out of Taiwan, to use the most current examples.

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      • Socialism_Everyday@reddthat.com ⁨4⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

        I believe there is a lot of room for nuance when we start counting victims. To me, the Nazis are not functionally the same to Poland, even if Poland invaded Czechoslovakia together with them, because Poland didn’t murder tens of millions of people. To me, the USA murdering tens of millions of people (38 million through economic sanctioning together with the EU since 1970, and 500k more every year) is absolutely horrifying and incomparable to anything else today except possibly the genocide in Gaza by Israel

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