Urine smells, but it doesn’t contain all the bacteria that aerosolzied shit does. But I guess you are the kind of person who thinks that illnesses just form spontaneously, colds are caught because you got cold and hygiene is for the weak, so there is no need to wash your hands.
ExtremeUnicorn@feddit.org 1 week ago
Quite the opposite is true, actually. I personally consider myself on the cleanlier side from what I’ve heard and seen.
I just don’t belive that inventing terms like “shit aerosols” is a reasonable way to discuss this topic, nor is it in any way scientifically accurate.
I would rather trust personal protection guidelines from people who are in danger of getting sick by working with feces daily than hysterical people discussing toilet seats. I think hospital staff would laugh at some of these claims.
squaresinger@lemmy.world 1 week ago
Did I make it up or are there research papers about that? I don’t know, you tell me.
Closing the lid reduces the exposure of aerosolized pathogens by 90%
With the toilet seat lid open, tests demonstrated that C. difficile could be recovered following a single flush with the end of the air sampling tube at seat level (12-fold greater counts than when lidded)
ExtremeUnicorn@feddit.org 1 week ago
Source 1 simulates that closing the toilet lid very much concentrates the droplets near the user instead of a wider area, so you either spray yourself or more of the toilet area.
Sources 2 investigates how the bacteria behave in vitro, without any evidence of any person actually getting infected in the process.
I believe you’re missing my point. I’m not claiming that it’s impossible to get sick if you hold your head over the toilet while someone else is flushing their diarrhea.
Just that putting the lid down is not some kind of magical thing that will make your bathroom into a cleanroom. And I highly doubt that any droplets you could even get in contact with from visiting the toilet after a healthy person should be your top worry. Do you also hold your breath after you flush?
squaresinger@lemmy.world 1 week ago
A nice strawman argument you have there. A shame that nobody made that argument. You would have totally owned that person if anyone did.
Because that’s how studies work. You measure one thing: Will shit make it into the air and can you measure that bacteria from shit will reach air that the user can breathe.
If they get sick from that is an entirely different measurement that depends on a ton of other things.
The point of the lid is to reduce the amount of stuff in the air, not to make your toilet into a clean room. Because any sane person knows a 12x reduction is a huge benefit and that perfect clenliness is neither achievable nor the point.