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If you just want to print ASA and no multicolour the Centauri Carbon is actually not a bad choice - it brings everything to print ASA and works relatively reliable. And it goes pretty cheap at the moment.

Not quite in your price range but the current hot shit (would need a improvised top cover and maybe even a external chamber heater) is the Snapmaker U1,but while it seems a decent machine so far it is clearly meant for PLA/PETG/PCTG. Nevertheless I am also using my P1S (Bambu) as a very sucessful ASA printer which in theory shouldn’t be possible (it is,just needs more time and preparation).

BUT: please, for the love of god,the spaghetti monster and everyone else: Still get a proper ventilation/filter solution. While ASA is less toxic than ABS it is still far from healthy.

And stay away from Bambu,imho. Not only is their whole environment becoming more and more walled garden like, their support and spare part availability is simply shit.

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Blue_Morpho@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
If I were to buy another printer, the Snapmaker U1 is at the very top by a huge margin.

But I wouldn’t recommend it for ASA. Out of the box it is an open air printer without active chamber heating.

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- philpo@feddit.org ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
  Yeah. But with any hood (aka the famous ikea hood) it seems to ve already working reasonably good.
  
  In theory the P1S is also not good for ASA due to it’s lack of chamber heating.
  
  In reality I print 50% of my prints with ASA and besides some preheating via plate it is a walk in the park. (Which by now is automated via Home Assistant for me).
  
  And of course there are always external heaters available. A friend has his P1S in a basement that has 5° all year round. A 30€ heater did it. Simply chucked into a corner and done.
  
  But yeah. Out of the box it is an issue,yeah. I will report back.
  
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Buelldozer@lemmy.today ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
The Centauri Carbon is surprisingly inexpensive, almost suspiciously so. I don’t need multi-color so that won’t be a problem. I’ll look into this one more.

The Snapmaker U1 looks interesting and it’s currently on sale for $849 so it’s in my budget -but- were back to the “I want a guarantee the thing will print ASA without 100 hours of frustration and faffing about.” thing.

BUT: please, for the love of god,the spaghetti monster and everyone else…

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I appreciate your warning about ASA and its toxic fumes. The machine will live in my 3 car garage where I can put an externally vented hood over it or enclose it completely.

And stay away from Bambu,imho.

That’s a bummer to hear as they’re one of the few manufacturer names that I actually recognize!

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- philpo@feddit.org ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago
  Sooo…as promised a feedback about the U1:
  
  it did print a small (10x10x5mm) test cube without issues even without a hood. (Black Forest Filament ASA HF)
  
  with a improvised hood that was anything but airtight I achieved 57° degrees inside the hood (measured with a temp probe 10cm above the plate). (I literally just chucked my kids toy basket on it)
  
  So. With a proper hood it should be no issue to print ASA in larger prints. But there are two downsides, well,one. The other one might be helpful.
  
  There is very little room inside the build chamber that is not used, very different from the P1S for example. That will make it hard to just chuck a heater in - it very likely would need to go in the top cover or somewhere else. I have ordered the Panda Breath,but that will take another month to arrive.
  
  The printer is very open in the bottom.(Literally jusf grated metal) On one hand this might be an issue if too much cold(or dusty) air comes in through that or too much air goes out through that that is then unfiltered.
  
  So my current idea is to actually use the space below the printer for heating or to remix the hood from srinn to have space for the Panda Breath.
  
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  - Buelldozer@lemmy.today ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago
    Thank you for the feedback!
    
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- philpo@feddit.org ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
  The Centauri was designed to be a price breaker and has some drawbacks,but currently it is mainly so cheap because they did not manage to get a proper multicolour system going (which they promised). For someone who mainly prints ASA it’s a decent choice and relatively open software wise. I have a few friends who have it and none had issues - and all were new to printing. (Tbh, if I had the WAF and the room I would have one for ASA/technical printing only…but well…)
  
  For the Snapmaker everything I read in terms of ASA would make it “workable”. (Even with a 12$ hood from a Ikea basket). If you send me a DM around the 15th or 20th of January I can tell you more,by then mine should have arrived and I should have had to run tests for all my technical filaments. (Even if you just want to print ASA/technical a toolchanger has its merits,e.g. for mixing materials or -this is not yet implemented but like to follow- different nozzle sizes). It’s very very unlikely that it will take hundreds of hours of work to print ASA - all the people I spoke with basically chucked some kind of hood on it and were good to go and from the technical parameters it should not be an issue. And if it is then it’s "chuck a external heater in some corner and your donex(they come prebuild these days).
  
  Good that you take it seriously. Sadly there are a lot of people onlinr who claim “ASA is not toxic, I sleep next to my unfiltered ASA printer all the time”,etc. The reality is: A longer ASA print is deadly enough to kill a small bird in a small room. While filaments have improved, the filtering solutions used by printers are often,well, not much more than a marketing buzzword and none eliminate the risks - which is an issue as ASA has some potentially cancerous compounds (in theory they are not used normally - but formulations differ between batches), stryrenes are always airway inflamming and ASA is the worst offender for ultrafine particles. So your solution is basically the best thing you can do but sadly my garage has no power and is far to prone to thieves.
  
  And yeah, ask me about Bambu being a shame. They were always “doubtful and not open”, but their shit worked. A few month after I got mine they went full enshitification mode and did their crazy lockdown thing. (Only when facing legal consequences they at least backtracked a bit - but it’s still not all the way). And their support is pure evil (my favorite story: They did not send me part of an order - somewhat expensive spare part and required a video of me not getting the part - how in hell I should have done that is still a mystery - A stronly worded legal letter helped). And their new product lines are somewhat buggy,artificially limited (like the actively heated AMS that cannot print and dry at the same time), the spare parts that don’t exist in the required amounts and the very strange design decisions that seem to be mainly driven by “doing things in a way that keeps the ecosystem closed”.
  
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- Blue_Morpho@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
  While the U1 is incredible, it cannot do ASA out of the box.
  
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