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Comment on Nvidia insists it isn’t Enron, but its AI deals are testing investor faith

You can do everything right and still have the curse of investor overconfidence placed on you.

Huang has been complaining for some time that doing well doesn’t result in stock gains, but the actual problem is the stock price is way too high so doing well does nothing for investor expectations.

This is when you sell shares because they no longer have any upside potential.

It sucks for companies though, but the fact is nvidia is overvalued at a 4.5T market cap.

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Tyrq@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨13⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago
In some ways the victim of their own success, that’s just the way this system is built, for better or worse (mostly worse). The incentives drive the behaviour, but the architecture is hostile in nature, so it’s hard to have different outcomes at a certain level. Infinite growth is literal cancer.

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- TeamAssimilation@infosec.pub ⁨9⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago
  “We didn’t want to inflate our valuation with circular investings, the market made us do it! We are the victims here!!”
  
  *Deploys golden parachute*
  
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U7826391786239@lemmy.zip ⁨13⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago
he’s got nothing to worry about. when they crash down to $1, trump will call it a “matter of national security” or some shit, and then bail them out, courtesy of your tax dollars and my tax dollars. because they actually want the AIs for their police state surveillance

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- wewbull@feddit.uk ⁨12⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago
  The company doesn’t care if the stock price hits $1. If the company is paying it’s bills, it just continues. It’s the people who hold shares that care. The company doesn’t hold shares in itself.
  
  Enron collapsed because the company financials collapsed, not because the stock price collapsed. That happened after all the bad accounting practises and hidden debt came to light. Now, in that case the shareholders succeeded in suing for their losses, but they only had a case because of the mismanagement.
  
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  - UnspecificGravity@piefed.social ⁨11⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago
    The company absolutely does own shares of itself and it’s ability to secure credit and just engage in business in general depends of the value of that holding.
    
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    wewbull@feddit.uk ⁨7⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago
    No. The board can decide to issue more shares, but this is a sub-dividing of the already issued shares and so normally requires a vote from the shareholders. Major shareholders normally sit on the board, so the two groups overlap but are legally distinct.
    
    If a company buys it own shares, it’s normally a “buyback” and the shares cease to exist.
    
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  - panda_abyss@lemmy.ca ⁨11⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago
    It does impact employee morale when they get paid with stock incentives and they go to zero.
    
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    wewbull@feddit.uk ⁨7⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago
    Of course. They are shareholders.
    
    The company is a separate legal entity though.
    
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- panda_abyss@lemmy.ca ⁨11⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago
  You can’t really bail out a stock price though…
  
  I guess you could provide a guaranteed backstop to sellers and funnel the stock to the government, as Trump seems to love doing, but then you end up with a $3T of over-valued assets that you can’t do anything with.
  
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UltraGiGaGigantic@lemmy.ml ⁨4⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago
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