You know what they’ve been doing to Philippine vessels, right?
And then there’s the laws against compromising another country’s telephone system.
And a whole bunch of other laws. Essentially, if the US has broken an international law in the past 5 years, China has broken it in a less aggressive manner as a response.
And then of course there’s the illegal police stations in other countries and their treatment of Uyghurs at home.
Thing is, China has been very careful to break international law in ways that other countries of power are also doing, mostly the US.
That still doesn’t make it right.
Archangel1313@lemmy.ca 3 weeks ago
Their entire “claim” to the South China Sea, which completely disregards both international and maritime law. You can’t lay claim to international waters…but try telling China that. They regularly harass and even attack boats from neighboring countries, that are operating within their own coastal economic zones.
Don’t get me wrong…I’m not defending the US in any way…but China is the last country with any credible right to criticize other countries for playing fast and loose with maritime laws.
mrdown@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
The usa allies are financing the genocides in sudan and palestine
Archangel1313@lemmy.ca 3 weeks ago
Cool. What does that have to do with China claiming to own international waters?
mrdown@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
We were talking about international laws in general. What’s worse than genocides of the scale of Gaza and Sudan?
The most brutal blockades are also by the USA’s allies. The UAE backing the RSF, who have a blockade on controlled cities, the blockade in Cuba by the USA, and the blockade by Israel in Gaza are the two longest blockades currently in place.
80% of Gaza’s children report living with depression, grief, and fear. More than half of Gaza’s children have contemplated suicide. That’s before 2023
China is also committing a lot of abuses but not at the USA and its ally level
frisbird@lemmy.ml 3 weeks ago
Attack how? With munitions? Like they attack them with lethal force? That kind of attack?
Were maritime laws created with China involved or were they created by the Western Europeans who invaded China by sea and occupied their port cities for a century?
Archangel1313@lemmy.ca 3 weeks ago
By ramming fishing boats with military vessels.
And are you saying that China can just pick and choose which international laws it follows and which ones it doesn’t? “Oh, we didn’t agree to that one…so it doesn’t apply to us.”
frisbird@lemmy.ml 3 weeks ago
No, I am saying the West has been weaponizing international law for centuries. The Doctrine of Discovery was international law in that it was a decree that courts in multiple nation relied on to justify genocide, slavery, and land dispossession. The US has established that it will subvert all social institutions up to and including training, arming, and transporting terrorists. It has also demonstrated that it has every intention of establishing a dominant presence encircling both China and Russia in the USA’s insane quest to undermine MAD and win a nuclear war with a first strike decapitation. China is asserting its control over a specific region of the seas that are a national security priority given the US’s constant beligerence. To say that China may not have such a presence and may not declare the region militarized due to internation law is the same thing as saying Biden can’t do anything about Trump because he lacked the necessary legal procedures to do so. China is establishing it’s national security boundary as its military assessment sees fit given the threat of the US surrounding it. I am not going lose sleep over China breaking international law about freedom of navigation in the waters nearest it’s territory when the US is destroying a dozen countries at any given time.
IronBird@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
well…yes, that is literally how it’s always worked. the UN is a joke, none of the rules apply to it’s biggest nations unless it’s citizens have the agency/willingness to hold their own accountable
Saapas@piefed.zip 2 weeks ago
“Explain what international law they broke!”
“Well these”
“Those don’t count”
Lol