Comment on China says US broke international law by seizing oil tankers off Venezuela

Archangel1313@lemmy.ca ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

• frisbird@lemmy.ml ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Explain which international laws China has broken in the last 5 years.

  I will wait.

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  • Archangel1313@lemmy.ca ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Their entire “claim” to the South China Sea, which completely disregards both international and maritime law. You can’t lay claim to international waters…but try telling China that. They regularly harass and even attack boats from neighboring countries, that are operating within their own coastal economic zones.

    Don’t get me wrong…I’m not defending the US in any way…but China is the last country with any credible right to criticize other countries for playing fast and loose with maritime laws.

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    • mrdown@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      The usa allies are financing the genocides in sudan and palestine

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      • Archangel1313@lemmy.ca ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        Cool. What does that have to do with China claiming to own international waters?

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    • frisbird@lemmy.ml ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Attack how? With munitions? Like they attack them with lethal force? That kind of attack?

      Were maritime laws created with China involved or were they created by the Western Europeans who invaded China by sea and occupied their port cities for a century?

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      • Archangel1313@lemmy.ca ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        By ramming fishing boats with military vessels.

        And are you saying that China can just pick and choose which international laws it follows and which ones it doesn’t? “Oh, we didn’t agree to that one…so it doesn’t apply to us.”

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      • Saapas@piefed.zip ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        “Explain what international law they broke!”

        “Well these”

        “Those don’t count”

        Lol

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  • adespoton@lemmy.ca ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    You know what they’ve been doing to Philippine vessels, right?

    And then there’s the laws against compromising another country’s telephone system.

    And a whole bunch of other laws. Essentially, if the US has broken an international law in the past 5 years, China has broken it in a less aggressive manner as a response.

    And then of course there’s the illegal police stations in other countries and their treatment of Uyghurs at home.

    Thing is, China has been very careful to break international law in ways that other countries of power are also doing, mostly the US.

    That still doesn’t make it right.

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    • frisbird@lemmy.ml ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      So what you’re saying is that China refuses to let international law be used in a way that allows the US to operate with complete impunity while the US romps around doing things that threaten others? Sounds like a pretty solid policy, honestly.

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• mrdown@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  They learned it from the west

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  • Saapas@piefed.zip ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    To care for it or not to care? Because the latter is a weird thing to say in reply to someone who thinks they never cared for it in the first place

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