Comment on China says US broke international law by seizing oil tankers off Venezuela

• mrdown@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

  We were talking about international laws in general. What’s worse than genocides of the scale of Gaza and Sudan?

  The most brutal blockades are also by the USA’s allies. The UAE backing the RSF, who have a blockade on controlled cities, the blockade in Cuba by the USA, and the blockade by Israel in Gaza are the two longest blockades currently in place.

  80% of Gaza’s children report living with depression, grief, and fear. More than half of Gaza’s children have contemplated suicide. That’s before 2023

  China is also committing a lot of abuses but not at the USA and its ally level

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  • Archangel1313@lemmy.ca ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    That’s a whole lot of whataboutism to deflect from the point I was making.

    To be clear…as I said previously…I’m not defending the US.

    I’m just pointing out how ridiculous it is that China is calling them out. The fact that Russia is saying it too, is equally hilarious. It’s like watching a bunch of career criminals all calling each other crooks. It’s about as disingenuous as it gets.

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    • mrdown@lemmy.world ⁨20⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      It’s not whataboutism . You said China is worse than the usa is not respecting international laws and maritime laws. I gave you all the evidence of why I think the usa ia worth.

      Yes it is hilarious when China and Russia claim to care about inteenational laws but it is even more hilarious when the USA and it’s ally claim it. Like canada claiming to want a two state solution in Gaza at the same time allowing selling of occupied land in Synaguoges and allowing an IDF soldier to talk in an University

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      • Archangel1313@lemmy.ca ⁨16⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        I never said China was worse…only that they’re also violating the very same laws they’re criticizing the US for violating. If the hypocrisy wasn’t so on-the-nose, I wouldn’t have said anything…but this is just laughable.

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    • frisbird@lemmy.ml ⁨19⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      Oh, now they suddenly care about international law?

      This is your original comment. The point you were making is LITERALLY whataboutism.

      The US is factually violating international law. China called them out. You said “but what about China violating international law”.

      It doesn’t get much more whataboutism than that. So let me continue you the trend here.

      You think the commenter you were replying to is doing a whataboutism? What about your whataboutism?!

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      • Archangel1313@lemmy.ca ⁨16⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        I don’t think you know what “whataboutism” means, then. It’s when you deflect to something unrelated, instead of focusing on the topic in question. In this case, the topic in question was LITERALLY China accusing the US of violating international law, specifically in regards to maritime law.

        There is no better irony, than China…who is currently violating international law, specifically in regards to maritime law…criticizing the US for doing exactly the same thing. See, how I didn’t change the subject? It was LITERALLY the subject already.

        Pointing out someone’s hypocrisy isn’t whataboutism, if the subject is the same. Otherwise the entire concept of calling out hypocrisy would be considered a logical fallacy. It’s only whataboutism, if you are bringing up unrelated topics in order to change the subject.

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