You can turn off memory training in BIOS, fyi.
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BremboTheFourth@piefed.ca 1 day agoHonestly I think DDR4 is the right call for an everyday-use PC anyway. I might be showing my ignorance here, but when I upgraded my PC I got DDR5-6000 and the memory training times are INSANE. The first few times I tried to boot I wound up restarting because 5 mins after hitting the button it still hadn’t shown the manufacturer’s logo and I assumed it was busted. Once it finally does finish the training, it usually doesn’t have to do it again for a while… but sometimes it does! Totally randomly (as far as I can tell), I’ll go for a quick reboot, maybe swapping from my Linux install back over to Windows or something, and what should be a 15 second wait is now suddenly a full 5+ minutes.
Near as I can tell, DDR5 Just Does That Sometimes??? How is that an upgrade!? I guess I’m probably seeing some performance gains from the faster timing, but man, sometimes I think I’d trade it in exchange for never having to wait on a black screen for minutes at a time.
iAmTheTot@sh.itjust.works 11 hours ago
BremboTheFourth@piefed.ca 8 hours ago
[deleted]iAmTheTot@sh.itjust.works 7 hours ago
Well I suppose it may depend on the bios you have but I can’t imagine any relatively modern one doesn’t have the option. My partner’s pc would take ages to boot until we turned it off, then it took seconds.
Minnels@lemmy.zip 15 hours ago
I have never heard of memory training? What is this? Something new with DDR5?
boonhet@sopuli.xyz 20 hours ago
Yea you don’t really get to choose though, unless you’re willing to go with a 2 generations old CPU just to get DDR4. Even the newest generation is over a year old for AMD, the DDR4 compatible stuff is 5 years old now and leaves you no upgrade path.
Mind you, I’m on a Ryzen 3000 series CPU, I could still upgrade to a newer and more coreful AM4 CPU AND get more RAM without having to go DDR5. But anyone building in 2026 probably doesn’t want to get a Ryzen 5000 series CPU anymore.
Ashtear@piefed.social 6 hours ago
Yeah, I’m planning on leap-frogging this time for this very reason. I tend to get GPU-bottlenecked more often than not, so hopefully whatever I pick up next year will extend my system long enough for a little more sanity to return.
BremboTheFourth@piefed.ca 19 hours ago
of course i know, or id have put my money where my mouth is, and ram alone is too pricey for that now. id have to get a new motherboard too. i love my op cpu, this pc rocks when it’s working (which is 99% of the time), but when training time comes it’s still frustrating that the new shit is so busted for me